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« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2007, 09:44:09 PM »
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America will heal. Let's just hope one knee-jerk doesn't invite another.
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« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2007, 09:48:19 PM »
RPM,

Interesting links there. Do you have anything credible, something from a non biased source that might even stand the test of a court? Since you make the allegation it is encumbant to show proof of actual intent to deceive, not more allegations. At this time, while there are lots of claims like yours, so far no one has been able to put together anything worth a filing. In other words do you have anything that is leading towards any legal action?

I'm not trying to be a "faboi" of bush but you simply haven't provided anything that is going to stand up to anything but a dem party gathering.
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« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2007, 11:19:34 PM »
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The ones that they didn't tell? That would be a short list.


so in other words you are saying they both lied?

Ok I'll buy into that one
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« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2007, 11:21:57 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2007, 11:28:52 PM »
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RPM,

Interesting links there. Do you have anything credible, something from a non biased source that might even stand the test of a court? Since you make the allegation it is encumbant to show proof of actual intent to deceive, not more allegations. At this time, while there are lots of claims like yours, so far no one has been able to put together anything worth a filing. In other words do you have anything that is leading towards any legal action?

I'm not trying to be a "faboi" of bush but you simply haven't provided anything that is going to stand up to anything but a dem party gathering.


That pretty much says it all.

Folks tend to believe what they want to believe. I'm not a fanboi of Bush either but until I see some concrete evidence of lying, I find it hard to accuse him.
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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2007, 11:31:20 PM »
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RPM,

Interesting links there. Do you have anything credible, something from a non biased source that might even stand the test of a court? Since you make the allegation it is encumbant to show proof of actual intent to deceive, not more allegations. At this time, while there are lots of claims like yours, so far no one has been able to put together anything worth a filing. In other words do you have anything that is leading towards any legal action?

I'm not trying to be a "faboi" of bush but you simply haven't provided anything that is going to stand up to anything but a dem party gathering.
Mav, That was just the first page that popped up when I googled "Bush lied war". There are lots of sources across the net with the same storys. Find one that suits your criteria. I'm not a procecutor and won't attempt to put a court case together. Perhaps you can present me a court case on the WMD, nuclear weapons and Iraq ties to 9/11.

I have no problem with a war on terror. The problem is Iraq is not it. Bring me the head of OBL on a stick & I'll vote for Cheney.
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« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2007, 11:59:58 PM »
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But I get it, when his string is pulled he can only say 5 things:

1- "Iraq"
2- "al Qaeda"
3- "9/11"
4- Osama bin Laden, and every now and then he gets real tricky replacing #3 with 5- "September 11th, 2001"[/B]


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« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2007, 12:06:49 AM »
It'll be a shame if Paul doesn't get even vice-president.
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« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2007, 10:55:14 AM »
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Mav, That was just the first page that popped up when I googled "Bush lied war". There are lots of sources across the net with the same storys. Find one that suits your criteria. I'm not a procecutor and won't attempt to put a court case together. Perhaps you can present me a court case on the WMD, nuclear weapons and Iraq ties to 9/11.

I have no problem with a war on terror. The problem is Iraq is not it. Bring me the head of OBL on a stick & I'll vote for Cheney.


OK short answer is that you don't have anything but political sound bites. I can accept that but please until you do have something that leads to at least an impeachment or an indictment for a deliberate falsehood you don't have anything to stand on. It took an FBI lab to show clinton was lying but at least there was an actual investigation and not just allegations. Allegations are not proof and not even a basis for charges, there has to be something else other than political posturing.
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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2007, 11:00:30 AM »
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Their was never a Link between Bin Laden and Saddam, on the contrary,Laden coudn't stand Saddam who he considered an Athieist who saw islamic fundamentalists like Laden a threat to power.  


Once Bush invaded and removed Saddam,he went on to remove the whole regime and dismantle the army the very thing that had kept Laden in check once removed,allowed the mad mullahs to come crawling out of the woodwork...The result is what we have today...Bin Laden must be Laughing his head off,Bush did him a favour,creating the perfect situation for Terrorist fudamentalists to thrive.Bush is the best recruiting sargent for Terrorists that Iraq Has.

   Bush has continually tried to form a Link with 9 11 Bin Laden and Iraq,to justify his invasion,and  make it palatable to the American ppl,and the poor soldiers fighting there.


                       Even Bushes own neo cons are finding him and his shabby jolly in the middle East an embarrasment.

  He's lying to those soldiers and to the American ppl,History is not going to be kind to G. W Bush. ;)


pretty much nailed it... some people are just stupid.
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« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2007, 11:45:00 AM »
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Havent gone through each and every one of them but for the most part they are saying Bush lied about essentially the same things Clinton  lied about


Wow even the liberal Speaker of the House isn't for impeachment of Bush.

If you are using Clinton's lies as an excuse for Bush it sounds as if you are in favor of Clinton's punishment for Bush as well.

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