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Offline john9001

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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2007, 07:26:24 AM »
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John9001 is a troll first and foremost, and I am not sure if he is a christian, but even so, if he is, John, would you beat your children for going mormon if you are indeed Christian?


i would not beat my childern, they could follow any religion or non, that's for them to decide.

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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2007, 09:14:00 AM »
rpm... what a crock... you are asked for examples and you point to a time in the dark ages when every crime no matter what..religion or not.. was pretty much punished with torture or death or both.. from stealing a loaf a bread to killing a deer on the kings land to...  blashemy.

They/we were a brutal people across the planet.   religion was just another way to put a "reason" for the normal brutality of the times.   Pretty much... any excuse to torture and kill and maim was good enough for our ancestors.

So I ask you this....

If there were millions of christians that had that "old time religion" of torture and death... if there were thousand upon thousands willing to die to spred it..

Would you say it was ok cause there were muslims like it?   That "all religions" were like that?

Or.. would it be worth it to you to wipe out the most fanatical of that ficticious christian group?

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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2007, 11:12:03 AM »
Lazs, I made a statement...
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...this is what happens when any religion is given priority over law and human rights.

I did not say what, when or where the religion was practiced. You want to modify my statement then make a commentary. That would be like me taking a 2nd amendment quote of yours out of context and make you defend it. BTW, I don't see any right to own a gun in the Bible. It says you can own swords, but no mention of guns.

Religion, including Christianity, has been the cause of many wars and attrocities thruout history. When you place religion above the law of the land, you're going to have problems. Fortunately most christians are peaceful law-abiding citizens, but some are fanatic extremists like David Koresh & Jim Jones. It happens in almost every religion. Moderation is still the key.

Seagoon, I don't think I could ever imagine you taking your religious beliefs to the level of the family of Eman Al-Sayeed. But I also would'nt imagine you to ignore the law of the land. You use moderation. You may feel a law is unchristian, but I'm pretty sure you would still obey the law until you could get it overturned or repealed. Even as a man of the cloth you know that moderation is important.

If we threw out the constitution and replaced it with the Bible and only followed 1 strict interpretation of it America would become a very ugly place to live. Religion has it's place in society, but laws are more important.
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2007, 11:14:26 AM »
It's hardly just religions rpm. Give anyone control over anyone else and our selfish natures become evident.
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2007, 11:17:49 AM »
I agree Iron.
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2007, 12:06:44 PM »
17 Christians Convicted in Indonesia

By IRWAN FIRDAUS
The Associated Press
Thursday, July 26, 2007; 9:43 AM

JAKARTA, Indonesia -- A dozen Christian men were convicted Thursday and sentenced to up to 14 years in jail for beating to death and beheading two Muslims to avenge the government executions of three Christians in Indonesia last year.

Five other Christians received eight-year terms for burying the pair, who were set upon by a mob as they drove though a Christian neighborhood on Sulawesi island a day after the Sept. 22, 2006, executions of Fabianus Tibo and two other Christian militants.

The three executed Christians had been found guilty of leading a militia that killed at least 70 Muslims during a 1999-2002 religious war on the island that led to the deaths of at least 1,000 people from both faiths.

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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2007, 12:13:08 PM »
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but some are fanatic extremists like David Koresh & Jim Jones.


Niether of them were Christians.
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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2007, 12:15:57 PM »
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Muslims can not co-exist with anyone else, there is only one solution.


If that's the case, ask George Bush why he wants Congress to approve an Arms sell that would give Egypt among other middle eastern countries US military weapons.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aH4QgFii6qwI&refer=us
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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2007, 12:25:15 PM »
and rolex, don't forget the christian imperial armies in Afghanistan that are daily killing the peaceful Taliban.
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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2007, 12:27:16 PM »
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If that's the case, ask George Bush why he wants Congress to approve an Arms sell that would give Egypt among other middle eastern countries US military weapons.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aH4QgFii6qwI&refer=us


you ask him, i'm too busy trying to reduce my carbon footprint.

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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2007, 12:51:44 PM »
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Niether of them were Christians.

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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2007, 02:32:11 PM »
Momma says :
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2007, 05:37:36 PM »
rpm, Jim Jones did not believe in the Bible in it's entirety and believed that he himself was an anointed prophet. He believed many things that were contrary to Biblical teachings. He cherry picked things from the Bible that suited him and discarded others that did not suit him.

David Koresh believed that he himself was the Messiah (even changed his name to reflect this), he was also a pedophile.

Both men used the Bible to further their own agendas, neither did they preach the Gospel or that all men are sinners.

Just because one preaches from a pulpit does not make one a Christian.
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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2007, 07:18:18 PM »
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Religion of peace:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/26/AR2007072600722.html?nav=hcmodule


Well I guess that shoots my theory down, guess it won't be much of a consolation prise for the victims that their murderes will prolly burn in hell if there is a good.