Author Topic: P-51 landing accident at AirVenture  (Read 2063 times)

Offline Wolfala

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4875
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2007, 07:14:29 PM »


the best cure for "wife ack" is to deploy chaff:    $...$$....$....$$$.....$ .....$$$.....$ ....$$

Offline JB73

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8780
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2007, 08:31:44 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
aero-news.net has the video of the crash, and a statement by the guy who runs the site.
I can't find the article there, I've never navigated that site, and it is quite clumsy...

PM or post the article please?


I went there Saturday for the whole day, and LIVE in WI....


during the extended warbirds show I had to pee and a 9 year old kid told me about this and I didn't believe him as I hadn't heard a THING locally in Milwaukee. Today on the way home from the UP of Michigan we stopped at some family members and they asked about it :O

to the fallen pilot, and I am truly saddened to hear about this. :confused: :( :(
I don't know what to put here yet.

Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6128
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2007, 09:08:49 PM »
Go to the website. It is the second article on yesterday's news links. The link to the video is in the article.
"I haven't seen Berlin yet, from the ground or the air, and I plan on doing both, BEFORE the war is over."

SaVaGe


Offline JB73

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8780
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2007, 09:28:52 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
...One guy died in a housefire somewere in norway too, and a couple in a carcrash.
and that has to do with this story how?

my only guess is you are trying to say "deaths happen all the time" or something, but a tragedy like this crash is a little bit more on the minds of the AH community. the only reason we do not document and account for every death that happens every day is because "we" are in tune with the aviation community in a whole and react to the loss a bit more.


if this is a troll well then :p
I don't know what to put here yet.

Offline Red Tail 444

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2497
      • http://www.redtail.org
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2007, 09:46:41 AM »
I was supposed to carpool there last thursday with a buddy. The D model involved looks like the Dazzling Donna. She was in MN in 2001, I have several nice pics of her.

Reminds me of the Redwing, MN Airshow in 2003 when we lost Don Hinz and his P51B "By Request." I was at that show, I'm glad I didn't get to this one.

Offline Sketch

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1351
      • http://www.arabian-knights.org
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2007, 09:56:42 AM »
Here is some news on it at as well...
Footage of P51 Landing
~Sketch~//~Arabian Knights~
Sketch's Gunsight Collection 2008
Sketchworks Arabian Knights Soundpack
~Oderint Dum Metuant~

Offline Maverick

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13958
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2007, 10:05:02 AM »
Sketch,

Good clip there, thanks for providing it.
DEFINITION OF A VETERAN
A Veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life."
Author Unknown

Offline Gunthr

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3043
      • http://www.dot.squat
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2007, 11:50:46 AM »
a little off topic, i landed at Wittman field my 46' Aeronca along with 8 other non-radio equipped aircraft - we had staged at another airport waiting for somebody with a radio - this was at the direction of Wittman tower.. .  when that person came along we all flew to Wittman together in loose formation - just following the guy who had the radio.  i remember getting tossed around by prop wash from a plane in front of me at one point ...  it was like a dream.   we landed en masse, some on cement, some on grass.  i didn't know these guys or what there skills were, and all the planes were different.  I remember thinking to myself "this is crazy"  that was around 1974 i think.   as much high density air traffic as that place gets I'm really surprised there aren't more general aviation accidents there - nevermind show accidents.
"When I speak I put on a mask. When I act, I am forced to take it off."  - Helvetius 18th Century

Offline WaspR2800

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 23
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2007, 02:16:30 PM »
I was there and witnessed it happen.:( I was pretty shocked by what I saw and kind of had a bad feeling in my gut when I saw how close they were comming in. Beck had built that P-51A from the ground up from North American plans and It's sad to see the loss of another Mustang not to mention the loss of the pilot. I'm interested in hearing the official FAA report. BTW Scottydawg, That is exactly what it was "death on the runway" Nice to see you throw in that political jab when this is about the loss of a human life as well a piece of history:rolleyes:
« Last Edit: July 31, 2007, 02:25:02 PM by WaspR2800 »

Offline Gh0stFT

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1736
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2007, 03:14:51 PM »
flying thats close is really risky, just one stronger wind turbulence from
the side or even from the plane ahead and you can be next moment in big trouble. And even more while landing, landing togheter looks cool, but saftey should
be more important, especialy in Aero sport.
Looks like the green couldnt decrease his speed enough (backwind?).

The other topic with the Heli crash, they flew way to close too until they crashed.

When i fly my glider, i also like to fly close with friends sometimes, but only when there are no or minimal wind, and when flying thermals its a no no.
Same goes for landing, i try to avoid landing when alot other people
prepairing for landing, i just wait until the air is clear and i can start
my landing procedure.

my condolences to the family of the P-51 Pilot,
looks like he lived his dream, unfortunately the fate can hit
you in a brutal way.

Gh0stFT
The statement below is true.
The statement above is false.

Offline DYNAMITE

  • Parolee
  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1350
      • http://www.texasaircav.com/
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2007, 06:00:48 PM »
:confused:   such a tragedy.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ad_1186036487

footage of the crash. :(

Offline Viking

  • Personal Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2867
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2007, 09:50:08 PM »
Such idiocy.

At least the real P-51 survived with repairable damage.

Offline Maverick

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13958
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2007, 10:23:30 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Viking
Such idiocy.

At least the real P-51 survived with repairable damage.


That's real classy there shultz.
DEFINITION OF A VETERAN
A Veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life."
Author Unknown

Offline Viking

  • Personal Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2867
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2007, 10:40:13 PM »
Rule number one when flying in formation: Never lose sight of your lead plane. The P-51A pilot should have peeled away to the left immediately when he lost sight of the lead plane. But I guess a cool looking landing was more important to him than the safety of his wingman, to say nothing of the audience.

Idiocy.

Offline Casca

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 353
P-51 landing accident at AirVenture
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2007, 09:03:38 AM »
I've known Gerry Beck for almost 20 years.  He was a consumate craftsman and a fine pilot.  It was an unfortunate accident.  Welcome to my ignore list dickmunch.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2007, 09:10:01 AM by Casca »
I'm Casca and I approved this message.