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Offline PanzerIV

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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2007, 07:02:06 PM »
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Yup, no tail gun... just a window so you can sit back there and scream!

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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2007, 07:50:13 PM »
I don't know how much I will fly it (in my case, try) but i'm sure I'll have fun regardless :aok
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« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2007, 08:02:58 PM »
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Still waiting for an answer to this one.


Some of us have lives outside the forums, get over it.

No s*** it didnt have guns, that might be why the "tracks" for them are at opposing angles and painted on.

And thanks to every movie with anything remotely to do with the Doolittle Raid working in dialogue about the guns being broomsticks, every dipstick whos ever been to a movie theater knows that one.

Thos were showing the glass tail cone with no guns, try looking at previous posts before finding something to ***** about.
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« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2007, 09:23:24 PM »
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If all it has is the dorsal turret, and no retractable ventral turret..... well, lambs to the slaughter

How is that different from the A20 or Boston?

Or Lanc, for that matter?

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« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2007, 09:54:25 PM »
Well, the A20 or Boston has speed on its side... a mossie on 1 engine will be able to catch the -25's.

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« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2007, 02:28:48 AM »
I think that the B25D had a celing around 24,000 and was at that altitude made around 275mph (this is from memory I am at work, so I do not have acess to my library y'all don't pick me apart)

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« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2007, 08:34:08 AM »
Here ya go, I'll throw you out a bone...

Specification of the North American B-25D Mitchell:

Engines: Two Wright R-2600-13 Double Cyclone fourteen-cylinder air-cooled radials, each rated at 1700 hp each for takeoff, 1500 hp at 2400 rpm. Equipped with Holley 1685HA carburetors. Performance: Maximum speed 284 mph at 15,000 feet. Cruising speed 233 mph at 15,000 feet. Initial climb rate 1100 feet per minute. An altitude of 15,000 feet could be reached in 16.5 minutes. Service ceiling 24,000 feet, Range 1500 miles with 3000 pounds of bombs. Weights: 20,300 pounds empty, 34,000 pounds maximum loaded. Dimensions: wingspan 67 feet 67.7 inches, length 53 feet 0 inches, height 15 feet 9 inches, wing area 610 square feet. Fuel: The fuel capacity consisted of four tanks in the inner wing panels, with a total capacity of 670 US gallons. In addition, a 515-gallon tank could be installed in the bomb bay for ferrying purposes, bringing total fuel capacity to 1255 US gallons. Later versions had additional auxiliary fuel tanks in the outer wing panels. Later versions could also have 125-gallon tanks fitted in side waist positions, a 215-gallon self-sealing fuel tank installed in the bomb bay, and provisions could be made for a droppable 335-gallon metal bomb-bay fuel tank. Armament: Two 0.50-inch machine guns in dorsal turret. Two 0.50-inch machine guns in retractable ventral turret. One 0.30-inch machine gun in flexible mount in the nose. Starting with B-25D-5 the 0.30-inch nose gun was removed and replaced by a flexible 0.50-inch machine gun in the extreme nose and two fixed 0.50-inch machine mounted in the nose and firing through holes cut into the side of the Plexiglas glazing. Normal bomb load was 3000 pounds but could be increased on the B-25D-1-NA with external underwing racks to a maximum of 5200 pounds.
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« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2007, 10:18:11 AM »
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Specification of the North American B-25D Mitchell:

Engines: Two Wright R-2600-13 Double Cyclone fourteen-cylinder air-cooled radials, each rated at 1700 hp each for takeoff, 1500 hp at 2400 rpm. Equipped with Holley 1685HA carburetors. Performance: Maximum speed 284 mph at 15,000 feet. Cruising speed 233 mph at 15,000 feet. Initial climb rate 1100 feet per minute. An altitude of 15,000 feet could be reached in 16.5 minutes. Service ceiling 24,000 feet, Range 1500 miles with 3000 pounds of bombs. Weights: 20,300 pounds empty, 34,000 pounds maximum loaded. Dimensions: wingspan 67 feet 67.7 inches, length 53 feet 0 inches, height 15 feet 9 inches, wing area 610 square feet. Fuel: The fuel capacity consisted of four tanks in the inner wing panels, with a total capacity of 670 US gallons. In addition, a 515-gallon tank could be installed in the bomb bay for ferrying purposes, bringing total fuel capacity to 1255 US gallons. Later versions had additional auxiliary fuel tanks in the outer wing panels. Later versions could also have 125-gallon tanks fitted in side waist positions, a 215-gallon self-sealing fuel tank installed in the bomb bay, and provisions could be made for a droppable 335-gallon metal bomb-bay fuel tank. Armament: Two 0.50-inch machine guns in dorsal turret. Two 0.50-inch machine guns in retractable ventral turret. One 0.30-inch machine gun in flexible mount in the nose. Starting with B-25D-5 the 0.30-inch nose gun was removed and replaced by a flexible 0.50-inch machine gun in the extreme nose and two fixed 0.50-inch machine mounted in the nose and firing through holes cut into the side of the Plexiglas glazing. Normal bomb load was 3000 pounds but could be increased on the B-25D-1-NA with external underwing racks to a maximum of 5200 pounds.


Hmm... A B-25D with 25% fuel, no bombs should weigh in around 26,000 lb. Given the wing area, that should produce a wing loading of 43 to 44 lb per sq/ft. That gentlemen, is better than many fighters.

I think that I'm gonna like the B-25...

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« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2007, 01:20:16 PM »
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Specification of the North American B-25D Mitchell:
Performance: Maximum speed 284 mph at 15,000 feet.

I've seen 271, 274, and your 284 figure all listed for 15K alt.  Considering performance curves of other American bombers, I'm guessing on the deck that will translate into between 220 to 250mph.  

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Normal bomb load was 3000 pounds but could be increased on the B-25D-1-NA with external underwing racks to a maximum of 5200 pounds.

IIRC, external racks first appeared with the B-25H (the J certainly had them as they made use of rockets with the J a lot by that time in the war) but certainly they would have be retrofitted onto earlier models whose wing spars could take the loads.  Also, to make that maximum bomb load, they had to go with light fuel loads, thus limiting their range.  Not sure if the game code would support a hard limit on a fuel load out in the hangar screen to accommodate a maximum bomb load.
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« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2007, 01:23:02 PM »
I smell a hanger queen.
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« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2007, 01:25:30 PM »
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Given the differences in the nose (B-25G having a snub-nose) my guess would be B-25C/D with the strafer as an alternate package, and B-25G as a separate aircraft.


That would work.  And the "painted" nose section on the strafer see in one pic could "cover up" use of the Norden bombsite (if C/D equipped with one) on the strafer version.... you go to F6 and only see black.  
Would also allow drones for C/D and strafer, and no drones for G.