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Offline Rich46yo

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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2007, 11:53:18 AM »
Christians are prosecuted or discriminated against in most Muslim countries. If not all. If you dont believe me then jump on an airplane to "over there", hang a crucifix around your neck, and walk down the street  reading a Bible. In many countries you wont make it a block with your head, or if your lucky you'll just get a Police beating.

                    I know, I was there.

                    And during those charming 18 mos, on Uncle Sam's tit, a buddy of mine. a christian, married a Muslim girl and they had an APT off-base in town. He went home one night with a friend and a dozen locals were in the APT waiting for him. They threw the both of them off the 4'th floor balcony because my buddy married Muslim. This was almost 30 years ago.

                    True story.
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2007, 01:26:58 PM »
God is Great......blah  blah   blah
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2007, 01:34:32 PM »
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God is Great......blah  blah   blah
I'm Catholic, he is Great.   But, for me my Religious Beliefs are private or shared with my Son, Wife and noone else.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2007, 03:21:35 PM »
trell,

 It was your post and your assertion.

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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2007, 04:40:27 PM »
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But, for me my Religious Beliefs are private or shared with my Son, Wife and noone else.

And probably God.
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2007, 04:42:32 PM »
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And probably God.
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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2007, 04:46:00 PM »
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Guess it is just not those evil Muslims that do this....
Maybe this should be titled "What We Won't Let some Christians  Teach Us"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/26/AR2007072600722.html?nav=hcmodule


Didnt have to read father then the first paragraph.

Looks to me like they actually have the right idea
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2007, 09:09:45 PM »
There was a war going between the muslims and christians there with thousands killed. Wonder how many muslims were jailed for murdering christians?
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2007, 09:41:42 PM »
if someone (muslims) are attacking and killing your people you must fight back and take the offensive whenever and wherever you can.
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2007, 11:22:03 PM »
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There was a war going between the muslims and christians there with thousands killed. Wonder how many muslims were jailed for murdering christians?


Assuming your responding to me. Though I may be incorrect in that assumption.
Let me restate. Or rather clarify if I may.

I think its the Christians that had the right idea
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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2007, 05:46:45 AM »
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Assuming your responding to me. Though I may be incorrect in that assumption.
Let me restate. Or rather clarify if I may.

I think its the Christians that had the right idea
clearly, but I would remove "christians" and replace it with displaced people.  the moslems are rapidly displacing anyone who will not submit to their creed and they seem to have no problems with putting entire villages to the sword, or ak47 as it were.

we forget that we live cozy lives in a posh land and we can be soft and sloppy.  this is simply not the case with 80% of humanity.

only here can there be a national debate over what some overpaid guy who can run fast and catch a ball does with his dogs or chickens.

the reactions to stuff like the dog thing would be laughable were it not so incredibly stupid.

moslems wipe out entire other religion's villages every day in africa and the far east yet you see nothing on the national news.

the only clear "outrage" over moslem actions that I can recall was way back when the taliban destroyed some buddhist icons in afghanistan some seven or so years ago.  the liberals were all aghast over the loss of these irreplacable art treasures but in typical liberal fashion not a word over the thousands, tens of thousands put to death by the moslems.

so yes let's worry about dead chickens and dogs or defaced religious art, never mind the thousands murdered, that is of course unless a few of them successfully fight fire with fire.  why the very nerve of those "christians".

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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2007, 05:50:54 AM »
What really irks me about these Musilms is the way they treat their women...as chattel.  It's legal there though so Storch is probably okay with that.
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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2007, 06:18:25 AM »
why would I consider a fellow human being to be chattel?  

I like my moslem neighbors but I loathe the moslem religion.  

having typed that allow me to remind you and perhaps myself as well that if we were to visit agra, india we can there see a monument, the testament of a moslem man to his undying love of his favorite wife, mumtaz mahal who died in childbirth bearing him their fourteenth child.  legend has it that soon after the completion of the monument, the mausoleum known as taj mahal he followed her to the grave.

an example of a woman as chattel or?  the moslems I know are devoted to their wives and their families as much as you or I.

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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2007, 07:04:36 AM »
lol

You demonise them in one post and then glorify them in another.  You are something else Storch.  You just can't seem to make up your mind about anything.
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2007, 07:23:31 AM »
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Originally posted by storch
clearly, but I would remove "christians" and replace it with displaced people.  the moslems are rapidly displacing anyone who will not submit to their creed and they seem to have no problems with putting entire villages to the sword, or ak47 as it were.

we forget that we live cozy lives in a posh land and we can be soft and sloppy.  this is simply not the case with 80% of humanity.

only here can there be a national debate over what some overpaid guy who can run fast and catch a ball does with his dogs or chickens.

the reactions to stuff like the dog thing would be laughable were it not so incredibly stupid.

moslems wipe out entire other religion's villages every day in africa and the far east yet you see nothing on the national news.

the only clear "outrage" over moslem actions that I can recall was way back when the taliban destroyed some buddhist icons in afghanistan some seven or so years ago.  the liberals were all aghast over the loss of these irreplacable art treasures but in typical liberal fashion not a word over the thousands, tens of thousands put to death by the moslems.

so yes let's worry about dead chickens and dogs or defaced religious art, never mind the thousands murdered, that is of course unless a few of them successfully fight fire with fire.  why the very nerve of those "christians".


The reasoning can be summerised perfectly with the old line..

"You show me a story DOG BITES MAN. Thats not news.
You show me a story MAN BITES DOG. Now that is news"
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