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« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2007, 01:20:30 PM »
Ink....with all due respect...you are an idiot!!:O  Oh by the way....  what kinda drugs are you on??? What kind of mental institution did you escape from?? Do you have an eight grade education?? Is you IQ under 20 or 10?
   What a slap in the face of all Americans when people like you make insane comments like that.......Please leave our country with your friends(Rosi Cindy Al and Jessie)Dont come back!!!
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« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2007, 01:28:07 PM »
You guys punted an old one. Check out the dates (I'll admit not that old, but it was one foot in the grave, anyway).

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« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2007, 01:43:29 PM »
Dear sweet baby Jesus.

Consipiracy Theories abundant here.   WAKE UP... Loose change or whatever it was called is crap.  I wasted perfectly good time wacthing and had a nice laugh.

I also love the we invaded Iraq to get their oil.... then where is it and why has the price of gas went up?


No wonder our companies export jobs overseas... these brainiacs are their employees if they stay domestic.

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« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2007, 01:49:09 PM »
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 I wasted perfectly good time wacthing and had a nice laugh.


If you got a laugh, it wasn't really time wasted was it?

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« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2007, 02:07:15 PM »
I think that basic spelling skills should be a requirement for anyone attempting to debunk global conspiracies.

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« Reply #50 on: August 10, 2007, 02:17:54 PM »
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Originally posted by ink me i DONT believe it.
does that make me unamerican?
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No.  You're still an American if you are a citizen.

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« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2007, 02:18:09 PM »
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Insane?
Umm you no the U.S. goverment MOST likleydid it on puispose as a reason to start a war? They didnt want to go in there just for oil.
and the pentagon had a hole 4x smaller than a plane so explin how that happend


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« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2007, 02:41:53 PM »
You shouldnt be ashamed by your beliefs... Most Americans think that it was Iraqi people who flew into the Twin Towers, when infact it was Saudi citizens.

Most Americans on this BBS believed that there were WMDs in Iraq at the point they invaded Iraq.

So you are entitled to your beliefs.
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« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2007, 03:47:03 PM »
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You shouldnt be ashamed by your beliefs... Most Americans think that it was Iraqi people who flew into the Twin Towers, when infact it was Saudi citizens.

Most Americans on this BBS believed that there were WMDs in Iraq at the point they invaded Iraq.

So you are entitled to your beliefs.


uuummmmm   Muslems??
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« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2007, 03:59:06 PM »
Muslems had nothing to do with it either.

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« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2007, 04:08:35 PM »
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You shouldnt be ashamed by your beliefs... Most Americans think that it was Iraqi people who flew into the Twin Towers, when infact it was Saudi citizens.

Most Americans on this BBS believed that there were WMDs in Iraq at the point they invaded Iraq.

So you are entitled to your beliefs.


No one ever said he wasn't lol, derr.

We are entitled to make fun of him for his beliefs though, just like you are for the people you hold in contempt.

Thats what makes freedom great.

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« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2007, 05:17:59 PM »
Excellent troll Ink, and excellent trolling technique. Not a single followup post after the deluge began.

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« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2007, 05:21:11 PM »
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Originally posted by ink
im wondering

do you guys/gals truly believe that the towers were done by those we have been told it was done by?

me i DONT believe it.
does that make me unamerican?

building #7 fell four hours after the towers,
the owner admits to "pulling" that building. due to fire damage?
that is the biggest load of crap,


how many of you knew that building #7 fell that day?
 lots of people i talk to had no idea that another building fell that day

do research find the truth  if you want to know the truth its out there to be had.
TRUTH...  IF SOMEONE DOESNT BELIEVE THE TRUTH  DOES IT BECOME A LIE?


WTC 7 Collapse
CLAIM: Seven hours after the two towers fell, the 47-story WTC 7 collapsed. According to 911review.org: "The video clearly shows that it was not a collapse subsequent to a fire, but rather a controlled demolition: amongst the Internet investigators, the jury is in on this one."

FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom--approximately 10 stories--about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.

NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.

According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."

There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.

Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."

WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors--along with the building's unusual construction--were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.

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« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2007, 05:47:37 PM »
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Originally posted by Bopboys coo
Insane?
Umm you no the U.S. goverment MOST likleydid it on puispose as a reason to start a war? They didnt want to go in there just for oil.
and the pentagon had a hole 4x smaller than a plane so explin how that happend


Big Plane, Small Holes
CLAIM: Two holes were visible in the Pentagon immediately after the attack: a 75-ft.-wide entry hole in the building's exterior wall, and a 16-ft.-wide hole in Ring C, the Pentagon's middle ring. Conspiracy theorists claim both holes are far too small to have been made by a Boeing 757. "How does a plane 125 ft. wide and 155 ft. long fit into a hole which is only 16 ft. across?" asks reopen911.org, a Web site "dedicated to discovering the bottom line truth to what really occurred on September 11, 2001."

The truth is of even less importance to French author Thierry Meyssan, whose baseless assertions are fodder for even mainstream European and Middle Eastern media. In his book The Big Lie, Meyssan concludes that the Pentagon was struck by a satellite-guided missile--part of an elaborate U.S. military coup. "This attack," he writes, "could only be committed by United States military personnel against other U.S. military personnel."

FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.

Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide--not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.


HOLE TRUTH: Flight 77's landing gear punched a 12-ft. hole into the Pentagon's Ring C. PHOTOGRAPH BY DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

Intact Windows
CLAIM: Many Pentagon windows remained in one piece--even those just above the point of impact from the Boeing 757 passenger plane. Pentagonstrike.co.uk, an online animation widely circulated in the United States and Europe, claims that photographs showing "intact windows" directly above the crash site prove "a missile" or "a craft much smaller than a 757" struck the Pentagon.

FACT: Some windows near the impact area did indeed survive the crash. But that's what the windows were supposed to do--they're blast-resistant.

"A blast-resistant window must be designed to resist a force significantly higher than a hurricane that's hitting instantaneously," says Ken Hays, executive vice president of Masonry Arts, the Bessemer, Ala., company that designed, manufactured and installed the Pentagon windows. Some were knocked out of the walls by the crash and the outer ring's later collapse. "They were not designed to receive wracking seismic force," Hays notes. "They were designed to take in inward pressure from a blast event, which apparently they did: [Before the collapse] the blinds were still stacked neatly behind the window glass."

 

AFTERMATH: Wreckage from Flight 77 on the Pentagon's lawn--proof that a passenger plane, not a missile, hit the building. PHOTOGRAPH BY AP/WIDE WORLD PHOTOS Flight 77 Debris




CLAIM: Conspiracy theorists insist there was no plane wreckage at the Pentagon. "In reality, a Boeing 757 was never found," claims pentagonstrike.co.uk, which asks the question, "What hit the Pentagon on 9/11?"

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"


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« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2007, 06:01:16 PM »
Here is the account of someone who actually saw the plane hitting the Pentagon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPUDktZpCU



http://www.debunking911.com
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