"A War We Just Might Win"

[Viking]

Originally posted by Maniac
Oh my, Hortlund thinks he is American or something. Someone break out the meds.

I think he's way past medical assistance. Loony-farm material.

[Viking]

Originally posted by Xargos
Norway will suffer an Islamic invasion before America.  The time will come when your people will be forced to bow down to them.

Never going to happen.

[Xargos]

Originally posted by Viking
Never going to happen.

I hope your right.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Viking
Nothing ambiguous about Norway's position. Norway would support an invasion if the UN Security Council found it legal and a resolution was successfully voted upon. It was not. Norway does not wage illegal wars. As for our "material contributions", you called in favors from WWII and our government at the time fell as a result. Now we have the worst possible socialist government thanks to you.

Tell me:

When someone does something he knows was morally wrong, and does it anyway in support of a friend, is that morally superior to someone who does something that he thinks is right but turns out to be wrong?

[Viking]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Tell me:

When someone does something he knows was morally wrong, and does it anyway in support of a friend, is that morally superior to someone who does something that he thinks is right but turns out to be wrong?

No. Not at all. But you assume your government actually thought what they were doing was right. I do not afford them such niceties, nor the government of Norway.

[Holden McGroin]

And you assume just the opposite.  Your assumption is equally fallacious.

You seem to be quite the angry little fellow today.  If your anger is indeed politically motivated, and not a chemical imbalance or some deep seated childhood / maternal conflict, then you should get together with all the other angry little men and change your government so that it can become one that angry little men can be proud of.

[Xargos]

Originally posted by Viking
No. Not at all. But you assume your government actually thought what they were doing was right. I do not afford them such niceties, nor the government of Norway.

The Big Banks wanted the war, not the American people.

[Viking]

I'm not blaming the American people, but the American people is responsible for their government, and what that government do in their name.

[Xargos]

Originally posted by Viking
I'm not blaming the American people, but the American people is responsible for their government, and what that government do in their name.

I'm not too sure about that anymore Viking.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Viking
I'm not blaming the American people, but the American people is responsible for their government, and what that government do in their name.

But Norwegians are not responsible for the govt of Norwegia, and what it does in the name of the Norwegians.  Us Usains are.

Originally posted by Viking
Now we have the worst possible socialist government thanks to you.

[Viking]

Originally posted by Xargos
I'm not too sure about that anymore Viking.

May I ask why?

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
But Norwegians are not responsible for the govt of Norwegia, and what it does in the name of the Norwegians.  Us Usains are.

Of course we are, and we did something about it. So did the Spaniards and Italians.  We changed our governments. You didn't when you had the opportunity. In Norway's case it was a change for the worse I'm afraid, at least for us.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Viking
Of course we are, and we did something about it.

So when you blamed us for your present government that was just hollow rhetoric then.

[Viking]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
And you assume just the opposite.  Your assumption is equally fallacious.

No. My assumption is based on a long history of governments and politicians abusing the trust and responsibilities given to them by the people. History shows us that anything politicians and men of power do serves their own needs and interests, not those of the people. If something good comes from their actions it is a byproduct and usually unintended. Until a government has proved its actions honorable I will not take anything the say or do at face value.

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
You seem to be quite the angry little fellow today.  If your anger is indeed politically motivated, and not a chemical imbalance or some deep seated childhood / maternal conflict, then you should get together with all the other angry little men and change your government so that it can become one that angry little men can be proud of.

Lol, I'm not angry at all.

[Viking]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
So when you blamed us for your present government that was just hollow rhetoric then.

Cause and effect. Our former government is guilty as well, but at least they were coerced. Your still current government started this out of their own free will. And the American people reelected them and thus are guilty as well.

[lazs2]

"No. My assumption is based on a long history of governments and politicians abusing the trust and responsibilities given to them by the people. History shows us that anything politicians and men of power do serves their own needs and interests, not those of the people. If something good comes from their actions it is a byproduct and usually unintended. "

now this is perhaps the most astute thing I have ever heard schlotzie say...

It begs the question tho... Why would you want socialism?  a bigger government?   knowing what you do.

lazs