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Offline WPmega

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« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2007, 11:10:19 AM »
ok what do u mean by non CV planes i mean did u not read the other post. the P47 was able to take off of a CV and it was fuctional. the only thing it could not do was land on the CV. but a skilled pilot can land B17's on the CV i think they can land a P47.

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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2007, 11:50:51 AM »
Krusty,

None of our heavy bombers hit 80,000lbs at 100% fuel and max bombload, let alone nearly empty.

But yes, landing a bomber on a CV seems....iffy at best.

First twin engined aircraft to land on a CV was a Mosquito that was modified to do it, and the Mosquito is not a big twin engined aircraft.
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« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2007, 02:37:07 PM »
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Originally posted by WPmega
ok what do u mean by non CV planes i mean did u not read the other post. the P47 was able to take off of a CV and it was fuctional. the only thing it could not do was land on the CV. but a skilled pilot can land B17's on the CV i think they can land a P47.


Non Carrier Based planes being just that: planes not designed or capable of operating from carriers.  Takeoff - fly a mission - and return to that carrier to do it all over again.  Primarily it comes down to the landing gear, tail hook, reinforced airframe, and the fact that most Navies avoided liquid cooled engines among their compliment during WWII.  

Not being able to land on a CV means (except for the Doolittle Raid) you won't be operating from CV's in a combat role.  A P-47 Jug cannot land on a CV, thus it won't be operating from a CV.  Outside of some convoy escorting, catapult launched planes in the Atlantic, which were ditched after 1 mission, generally you don't use land-based Army planes in any numbers on suicide runs from CV's.  

And AGAIN, the P-47's shown in the video you posted were coming off a catapult equipped CVE (carrier - escort), they were not carrying bombs, they were not attacking anything.  They were being delivered to an Army airfield in the Pacific.  A simple ferry mission.  Many different types of aircraft could be delivered this way in the Pacific, which is why CVE's like the CASABLANCA were fitted with catapults.
They got loaded up on a carrier by a crane.  Stored below decks until they reached their destination (if there was room below for them).  They were brought into range of their destination.  They took off, often with catapult assist, and proceeded to land at the friendly airfield they were going to operate from.  They did combat operations from the island airfield.  Not the carrier.


In the game, you CAN (well, are theoretically able to at any rate) land non-CV planes like the Jug and B-17 onto the carriers and take off again after rearming.  It's a game.  No less unrealistic than Allied planes fighting other Allied planes are historically very low altitudes.   Simplifies the game coding required a lot.  You want to rearm a Jug or a bomber on a CV, then feel free.  Yes, it's gaming the game.  Takes a little skill to pull it off too, so if you manage to do it, congrats!

But don't expect to get P-47's spawn-able from CV's in the game just because of 1 film taken way out of context, because "it would be kewl", just because you want it to be so, or because you personally are unable to land a Jug on a CV, rearm, or take off again.
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« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2007, 03:06:54 PM »
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It did very little damage, and most of the planes and men were lost.



All but a handful made it back.  The Mitchells however were toast.


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