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Offline Gh0stFT

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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2007, 07:35:24 PM »
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Wonder what happened to OC spray, throwing a stick in the tree, many different options availible other than shooting.  what a malaka......


why use a stick if you own a gun.
this was a life threat so the officer used a gun.

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its simply sad, a starting life lost forever, because of what.
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2007, 09:00:18 PM »
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If there's a possibly rabid animal that could threaten children, you should be able to grab a shovel or whatnot and fix it yourself.

We're being trained that we as individuals are less competent than the "they" in the phrase "they should do something about that".


I might have but the only thing I had handy at the time was a wet paintbrush and a 1" putty knife.
Neither of which I think would have had much effect.

But. one would think that a "department of animal control" would be willing to do just a bit more then pick up already caught animals
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2007, 09:15:53 PM »
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I might have but the only thing I had handy at the time was a wet paintbrush and a 1" putty knife.
Neither of which I think would have had much effect.

But. one would think that a "department of animal control" would be willing to do just a bit more then pick up already caught animals


After my recent run in with "Government Officials", I'm not surprised at their willingness to do anything at all.
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2007, 09:24:05 PM »
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I'm increasingly of the opinion that we as a people seem to be almost falling over ourselves trying to abrogate the basic tasks of the individual away to the government.

If there's a snake on your property that you don't want, take care of it yourself.

If there's a possibly rabid animal that could threaten children, you should be able to grab a shovel or whatnot and fix it yourself.

We're being trained that we as individuals are less competent than the "they" in the phrase "they should do something about that".


But.......here is the scenario played the other way around.  He see's an obviously sick animal that may be a threat to children.  He walks over with a shovel and brains the animal before anything can happen.  

One of the children runs home to tell their parents that this strange man is killing something in the playground.  

The cops arrive to interrogate him about why he was killing it and cite him for various minor charges.  

Animal control shows up (at the behest of the police) to cite him for animal cruelty because he killed it without cause (he can't prove it had rabies) and because he used a shovel.  

The Game Commision comes to cite him for hunting groundhog out of season, without an approved weapon, and in a public place.  

The local media shows up, courtesy of the parents, to broadcast the story of a deranged man killing small animals in a park full of kids next to a church in an obvious satanic ritual.  

PETA shows up to picket his house and rant about how this poor little fuzzy animal is a herbavour that has never done anyone any harm and how bad this man is.  

He'll loose his job, a large amount of money, his chance at a hunting license, any public respect he had.....and all becuase he chose to do something.  Other alternative is to look over, go "gee.....not my problem" and go right back to work.  Thats what society expects of us:(

I'd have asked that person at Animal Control their name, and supervisor's name.  Then I'd have informed them that I'll be watching patiently to see which child gets bitten first so that I can inform the parents of exactly who the government official was that refused to take action to protect their child from an obvious threat.  Let AC pay for the rabies shots, among other things, from out of the lawsuit!

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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2007, 09:45:57 PM »
Are you shure thats what how it went?I thought the police shot a boy and seen a snake...or was it shooting at a boy and killed a snake who knows?:rolleyes:

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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2007, 10:41:38 PM »
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Are you shure thats what how it went?I thought the police shot a boy and seen a snake...or was it shooting at a boy and killed a snake who knows?:rolleyes:
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2007, 07:23:48 AM »
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Originally posted by Chairboy
I'm increasingly of the opinion that we as a people seem to be almost falling over ourselves trying to abrogate the basic tasks of the individual away to the government.

If there's a snake on your property that you don't want, take care of it yourself.

If there's a possibly rabid animal that could threaten children, you should be able to grab a shovel or whatnot and fix it yourself.

We're being trained that we as individuals are less competent than the "they" in the phrase "they should do something about that".


The problem is most people now a days live in the cities or suburbs,  walking outside your house with a gun to shoot an animal in your property will cause all kinds of issues.  houses are so close together.

Cops are the only option they give now a days.

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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2007, 07:29:50 AM »
Anyone who would use a firearm in an area even remotely close to the public to kill a snake is a complete moron and should have never been allowed to carry one in the first place.  Snakes are not a threat unless you accidentally step on one, ore are trying to play with one, otherwise if you want it dead, you kill it with a yard tool such as a shovel or hoe.  This guy should be prosecuted!

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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2007, 07:34:53 AM »
The cop should have send in some cats to kill the snakes.



If that Neighborhood had more cats then this would not have been an issue

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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2007, 07:44:32 AM »
99 snakes out of a hundred one may run across are completely harmless, and an asset to wherever it lives---whenever wife sees a snake near the house she grabs it barehanded and chucks in onto our property (I guess they all get along?) Aside from that, I think the cop's riot gun would have been a better choice than the pistol
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2007, 08:11:12 AM »
bad thing for everyone concerned.   I have to agree with angus tho that he should have used a shotgun.

The chances of what happened really happening were extremely small..  it was in the end, an accident.. like all accidents it could have been prevented but there just wasn't that much risk.

I bet the poor guy will wish he had for the rest of his life..

the relatives of the poor child will never be the same either..  sad thing.

In the past...  I have been out in the field and heard bullets strike nearby.   I shot into a safe spot (bank or tree) in the direction the shooting was coming from and the shooting stopped.   In one case I ended up running into the people who were shooting (with a poor backstop) and they were very embarassed.   They were sighting in a rifle and were using a paper plate on a tree for a target with no other backstop..  my shots reminded them that they were not alone on the planet and made them remember their hunters safety training.

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