Bonds.

[bj229r]

What sort of exercises make your head larger?

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by killnu
how many years between rookie season and the last pic?
guy has not popped positive on a test yet...not found guilty...yet...but because the media says something people all believe it to be fact...lemmings.

He will be in the HOF regardless...if Ty Cobb is there with some of the crap he did...Bonds will be too.

True but his strength trainers are both in jail.
Bonds himself under testimony never said he never took steroids.
But that he never "knowingly" took steroids.

Kinda like the guy that tells the cop "I didnt know it was in there" After the cop finds a joint in the car.

Reguardless.

Ruth did it in less games,with a longer feilds, and a less juiced ball, in an era where the players didnt spend half their lives in the weight room.

Far as Im concerned Ruth is still #1, Aaron A close 2 only because of the above.

And I dont want to hear about any negro league.

With all due respects to those players. The Negro League was NOT the official MLB

[Red Tail 444]

Nevermind that the Rocket has a head the size of a Rottweiler's nowadays (rolls eyes)

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by killnu
how many years between rookie season and the last pic?
guy has not popped positive on a test yet...not found guilty...yet...but because the media says something people all believe it to be fact...lemmings.

He will be in the HOF regardless...if Ty Cobb is there with some of the crap he did...Bonds will be too.

And Gaylord Perry, as well. Interesting how on one hand most of the posters in this thread lambast the "evil liberal media" but are sucking in the teat of the antichrist media when people like Costas goes after someone everyone generally hates.

[FBBone]

Originally posted by Eagler
if a couple of pills makes the possibility of getting a zillion $$ contract more possible - you'd be stupid not to take them.

wow, thats the most foolish thing I've seen in a while.  But then again, they helped greats such as Lyle Alzado, right?

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
True but his strength trainers are both in jail.
Bonds himself under testimony never said he never took steroids.
But that he never "knowingly" took steroids.

Kinda like the guy that tells the cop "I didnt know it was in there" After the cop finds a joint in the car.

Reguardless.

Ruth did it in less games,with a longer feilds, and a less juiced ball, in an era where the players didnt spend half their lives in the weight room.

Far as Im concerned Ruth is still #1, Aaron A close 2 only because of the above.

And I dont want to hear about any negro league.

With all due respects to those players. The Negro League was NOT the official MLB

lack of relief pitchers (2/3'rds of his HRs came after the 6th inning, I'll find the source when I have time)

lack of "specialty" pitchers or "one batter" guys in the bullpen

With all due respect, as a high-profile athlete, Babe Ruth would have been suspended multiple times and eventually thrown out of baseball for violating the substance abuse policy if he were playing today. Not to mention countless fines for missing practice, missing curfew (See TO,Shockey, Rodman,  Darryl Strayberry, Dwight Gooden...)


















Or, would you look the other way and give him a pass, because you know he'd fill seats when the Yankees came to town?

[LePaul]

I stopped being a baseball fan when they went on strike.  Since then, I'll catch a game here and there...I'd prefer to watch the local college/high school teams.  

These guys, to me, are just sellouts.  Big dollars, mediocre performance and shameless excuses for their steroid needs.

Part of me hoped someone like Yaz would walk onto the field and whup his butt

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Nevermind that the Rocket has a head the size of a Rottweiler's nowadays (rolls eyes)

The purpose of steroids is to repair your body.   Clemens on steroids?   If he WAS, he wouldn't have been pitching a 1/2 of a season for the last couple of years.   He'd have started the whole season.

[bj229r]

I've always wondered that, CAN steroids help pitchers? Not sure if being able to bench 350 can help your 90+ mph curve break any meaner? Some of the best fast-ballers all tall skinny guys--David Wells sure didnt think 'roids help pitchers

There are guys in the game only because of steroids. They couldn't make it with their natural talent, so they had to enhance themselves. It sucks.

[Kaw1000]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO   BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:mad:  BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:furious  BOOOOOOOOOOOOO:furious

Hank Aaron Forever:aok ........Barry Bonds NEVER!!!:furious

[Eagler]

Originally posted by FBBone
wow, thats the most foolish thing I've seen in a while.  But then again, they helped greats such as Lyle Alzado, right?

moderation

have you ever tried them?

[Jappa52]

have a bonds rookie card i will sell ya real cheap:D

[FBBone]

Originally posted by Eagler
moderation

have you ever tried them?

If I had, I'd be a zillionaire, right?  So, no, I haven't.  How about you?  Have the 'roids in moderation helped you any?

[indy007]

Originally posted by bj229r
I've always wondered that, CAN steroids help pitchers? Not sure if being able to bench 350 can help your 90+ mph curve break any meaner? Some of the best fast-ballers all tall skinny guys--David Wells sure didnt think 'roids help pitchers

They're not going to really add speed to the pitch unless you're chewing them down like a WWF wrestler. Look out the Tour De France guys for example. Absolutely riddeled with performance enhancers (blood doping, steroids, you name it), but they've got the build of a lamp pole.

What steroids really does is help you recover fast so you can train more. An example of that would be MMA fighters. They're in the gym 5 days a week. The carrot they're chasing is large fight purses and potential multi-million dollar pay-per-view revunes. If you go into a fight with a nagging injury, you're probably going to get owned.. and your career is out the window because the fans do not tolerate losers (very entertaining losers only slightly longer).

I think the steroid thing is overblown.. If you have a torn muscle, you're allowed to take pain killers.. but not something to actually help repair the tear? Makes no sense. Only reason for it is because people have heavily abused steroid and gone crazy (Chris Benoit recently) and cast a cloud of fear over it... but abuse of perscriptions happens with any drugs, and not just steroids, so it's pretty irrational.

[john9001]

bisball be very very good to me.