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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2007, 12:39:37 PM »
I usually fly the G6 or G14. None of them are very fast or very agile but somewere inbetween. Often i get some remark by a guy flying his HOicane or other great turnfighter because i did not slow down and place myself infront of his plane :D Im glad not everyone listens to some of the advice here and "get a faster plane so you can chase em down" It would be one boring MA if everyone chased everyone else around in uber rides. Alot of people also use the "i need a fast plane to chase the other guy down" excuse for choosing a plane he can run away himslef in.

If you are in a slow turner, then your job is to make him loose his E and finish him or let him go for better pray.

If your ride has other qualities then use em!

If you cant fool the other guy into fighting on your own terms then you have made the mistake and have lost your right to whine :cool:

There is no fighter in this game that does not have a good chanse at winning fights if you use its advantages vs the oponents.

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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2007, 12:54:26 PM »
last night I called out one of the MAW's for ganging, and his squaddie said, "dude, it's a big furball, you should expect it"  the difference is, I had flown southeast away from the furball to get a better fight.  I engaged an la7 and a couple of others joined in, then a c205.  The 205 was 4th plane in and had to fly 1/4 sector to get to the 3 vs 1 already in progress.  This is the kind of dweebery that I never understand.  I mean, there is already 3 there and your going to fly out of your way to be the 4th?    :rofl :lol

btw   it took 6 minutes to get me JUG25 to go down and the MAW in the 205 took no less than 4 passes!:D



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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2007, 01:04:14 PM »
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The 205 was 4th plane in and had to fly 1/4 sector to get to the 3 vs 1 already in progress.  This is the kind of dweebery that I never understand.

Dude....I mean, like...it's a WAR, don't you see?  I mean, like, in a real war, people would really, like, gang up whenever they could you know, so that they could kill the bad dude and win the war.

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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2007, 01:04:46 PM »
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Hey bud !

I do admit not feeling so content when I land 3+ kills when I know I didn't work that hard.(outnumbered him or waited for the right time to jump in)

 


Mossies are my main ride in the MA and is by no means an uber plane but it has its strenghts.  When I get more than three kills I know I have had to work for it.  I regulary fly into furballs but I am always careful to maintain E advantage so I can "wait for the right time to jump in".  Nothing wrong with that.  Besides the Mossie is a magnet and as soon as your icon shows up on the enemies screen they come running to you.  Rarely do they run from you but if they do there is nothing better than diving in on a running LA or Pony.   :)

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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2007, 01:15:04 PM »
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Dude....I mean, like...it's a WAR, don't you see?  I mean, like, in a real war, people would really, like, gang up whenever they could you know, so that they could kill the bad dude and win the war.

- oldman

:rofl :lol :rofl  

one- this is not war, it's a game.

two-  I think that's dweeby

three-  also I consider it a form of killstealing

four-  I find that only timid vets and skilless dweebs would take the time to fly out to a 3 on 1:aok

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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2007, 01:23:18 PM »
I don't agree with most of what you said.

If you want to fight 1v1 then the late war MA probably isn't the best place for you.

Part of doing well in the late war MA, in my opinion, is knowing when to engage, and knowing when to disengage.

If you're only looking to fight till the death, then forget about the disengage part.

If you're looking to try and save your cartoon life, then I suggest you choose your fights wisely.  There's no problem engaging at fair or uneven odds.  However, if you're happily flying your 1v1 and you see the dar bar growing and growing, it's YOUR choice whether to stay or disengage.  Hey, that' part of flying and fighting.

A skillfull disengagement can be every bit as satisfying as a hard fought 1v1, in my opinion.
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2007, 01:29:52 PM »
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:rofl :lol :rofl  

one- this is not war, it's a game.

two-  I think that's dweeby

three-  also I consider it a form of killstealing

four-  I find that only timid vets and skilless dweebs would take the time to fly out to a 3 on 1:aok


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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2007, 02:30:54 PM »
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Mark ... I have a brand new set of pliers that you can use to get that hook out of your mouth ...  :p

use them on yourself first!  hee hee
I already got tunnces123 to start defending the gangbang, wonder how many more will I get?  :D

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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2007, 02:33:28 PM »
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 skillfull disengagement  

Wow!  :rofl :lol :rofl   running, will never be as satisfying as a hard fought 1 vs 1!  If a fella is flying towards a 3 vs 1, he is by definition, DWEEBY!:aok


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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2007, 02:35:30 PM »
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use them on yourself first!  hee hee
I already got tunnces123 to start defending the gangbang, wonder how many more will I get?  :D


huh ? ... I was referring to OldMan's post ...  :D

My mouth is scar free in regards to this thread ... ;)
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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2007, 02:44:28 PM »
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I don't agree with most of what you said.

If you want to fight 1v1 then the late war MA probably isn't the best place for you.

Part of doing well in the late war MA, in my opinion, is knowing when to engage, and knowing when to disengage.

If you're only looking to fight till the death, then forget about the disengage part.

If you're looking to try and save your cartoon life, then I suggest you choose your fights wisely.  There's no problem engaging at fair or uneven odds.  However, if you're happily flying your 1v1 and you see the dar bar growing and growing, it's YOUR choice whether to stay or disengage.  Hey, that' part of flying and fighting.

A skillfull disengagement can be every bit as satisfying as a hard fought 1v1, in my opinion.


I agree with this 100%. I recently just flew an entire camp flying nothing but slow turners, Fm2, F4F and some F6F (In LW arenas only) just to sharpen the 'ole knife. In those planes I prayed the guy would be dumb enough to turn with me, as opposed to when I'm in my Typhoon I pray the guy is dumb enough to try to run from me. No matter which type of plane or style of fightering though the real art or trick to being successful, by successfull I mean down as many aircraft as possible without getting yourself wacked, is exactly what toonces says. That is knowing when to get involved and how deeply invested Energy wise you do so. Then knowing the time to disengage and having the ability, SA and retained energy to actually do the disengaging.

This is something only gained by experience and is always a judgement call, no matter in which style or in which plane you fly. Fail to engage and disengage at the proper times and you either die or fail to kill, either of which means you were unsuccessful. It's a constant balancing act, you must weigh the concern of maximally inflicting casualties to the enemy and avoiding becoming one yourself, sometimes this dual faceted goal is even in diametric opposition adding to the tactical intrigue of it all.

Now if you're just a, dive into the swarm and flail around till you die type, it's not this nuanced, you just put as much lead into as many planes as you can before they finally chop you down...So, it's kind of like you're only playing half the game, from a fighter tactics point of view...

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« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2007, 02:45:19 PM »
I'm glad this topic has FINALLY been brought up.  It certainly has never been discussed before... :rolleyes:
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Darn good comments guys !!
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2007, 02:46:34 PM »
Thanks guys !

Many of you made some good points !!!

Slapshot ! We see ya in the mid war !
You are a DAMN good stick !

You have "filled" my rear end with lead more than I wished ! LOL
And on the odd occasion, I returned the favor:rofl

Slapshot I know that you have top numbers for fighter ranks !
Is it fair to say that a large majority of your kills would be in the late arenas? And if so, those kills are they easier and faster done than the mid war scraps ?

When you guys(Bi-polar / Dextur / Storch / Zip etc... ) fight in Mid, are the scraps more challenging ?
It would be great to see you guys in Early and Mid more often !

Phil

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« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2007, 03:00:41 PM »
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:rofl :lol :rofl  

one- this is not war, it's a game.

two-  I think that's dweeby

three-  also I consider it a form of killstealing

four-  I find that only timid vets and skilless dweebs would take the time to fly out to a 3 on 1:aok



i so f@#king agree

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« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2007, 03:23:33 PM »
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huh ? ... I was referring to OldMan's post ...  :D

My mouth is scar free in regards to this thread ... ;)

vv Slap, I thought it was funny!  ;)

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