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Offline ghi

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Q about HQ
« on: August 09, 2007, 02:50:15 PM »
HQ raids and defend it against massive bombing raids, used to be  the best fun in last version, but now makes no sense to bomb it, can be resuped immediately and is a waste of time to try,
 Can we get old settings, aprox 30 min downtime without resup option?

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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2007, 02:52:53 PM »
:rolleyes:

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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2007, 03:00:24 PM »
Here Here!!!!:aok
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Offline AAolds

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007, 03:03:07 PM »
I agree with ya ghi, HQ raids are generally useless now, so are strat raids, HTC may as well remove them all from the game due to their lack of impact on the game.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2007, 03:21:17 PM »
THATS WHY WE NEED AN LA7 FACTORY:aok :aok :aok
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Offline tedrbr

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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2007, 03:48:18 PM »
Law of unintended consequences:
Change to multiple war arenas mandated smaller maps.
Smaller maps resulted in 1 zone per side, vs the multiple zones in old large maps.
Strategic war efforts for the most part nullified, and smaller maps resulted in easier HQ resup for the most part.  Increase of troops at fields makes porking harder and resups much easier. Fewer players per arena at peak times makes for less coordinated bombing efforts among several buff drivers in any one team in any one arena.

Don't know if 30 min hard downtime is the solution though.  Maybe decreasing the effectiveness of each resup mission to a HQ would result in longer downtimes, and more effort in preventing HQ raids?  No simple fix.

And nothing I can think of will bring strategic bombing back to usefulness in the war arenas.  

I used to run high bombers against strats across the zone in the old MA and occasionally HQ raids.  I used to pork ord and troops and fuel alongside those strat attacks..... but with all the troops barracks now, limited role of strat factories and limited use of strategic warfare on small maps.... I just don't bother to run heavy buffs much these days.

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2007, 04:35:41 PM »
I havent bombed HQ since it became resuppliable. I think most others feel the same way about it...

why bother?

i still think disabling only inflight dar when HQ down would be better.
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Offline AAolds

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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2007, 04:38:20 PM »
Eventually, if some positive changes aren't made to the game its going to come down to why bother paying as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Q about HQ
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2007, 04:43:41 PM »
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Originally posted by ghi
HQ raids and defend it against massive bombing raids, used to be  the best fun in last version, but now makes no sense to bomb it, can be resuped immediately and is a waste of time to try,
 Can we get old settings, aprox 30 min downtime without resup option?



How are they resupplied immediately?

Just wondering....

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2007, 04:54:18 PM »
Get about ten guys to up supplies to it and it will be back up in about 5 min.

Poor tard had to fly an Hour to hit HQ. And the country guys fly for 5 min and it's back up.
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Offline AAolds

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2007, 05:02:00 PM »
SFCHONDO, are you trying to hypnotize people with your avatar?  LOL!
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2007, 07:30:50 PM »
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Originally posted by ghi
but now makes no sense to bomb it, can be resuped immediately and is a waste of time to try,
 Can we get old settings, aprox 30 min downtime without resup option?


Heh, why have it at all? Get rid of it then, HiTech. You've gone this far, why stop? I agree with ghi. It has proven to be a waste.
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Offline FiLtH

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2007, 07:46:55 PM »
We need something worth bombing. As it is now with the exception of guys who want score, most folks hit a base. And we know where that goes.

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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2007, 08:09:16 PM »
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We need something worth bombing. As it is now with the exception of guys who want score, most folks hit a base. And we know where that goes.


But we don't have it.  It would take a bit of effort to get enough buff drivers together, in one arena where 1 side may have up to 100 pilots during a peak time, to coordinate well enough to hit a couple strats and pork the corresponding strats at several fields to have any effect in an arena,.....and all the troop and supply strats make resupping much easier than taking out the strats in the first place.

Back in the old MA, I didn't bother posting a mission if country numbers fell below 140 to 150 players, because good mission turnout became much more problematical under that bar.

This is further compounded a little by a percentage of buff drivers spending time doing milk runs in EW and MW to get that score you mentioned, where low pilot numbers puts coordinated efforts down to quick, uncontested smash and grabs.... no strategic effort.

Strategic bombing is pretty much on the sidelines now.

So, the bombers hit Hangars and CVs.  

Possible solution (since 1 MA again probably is not in the cards): let buff drivers buy up to 3 additional drones with buff perk points and give defenders manned puffy ack or FlaK36's to defend the fields against them...... fewer buff drivers required to try and fight a strategic bombing campaign.... but taking them over defended fields a little more dangerous for those formations.

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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2007, 08:52:47 PM »
Just as long as the 1 or 2 peps in a their boxes couldn't take HQ down alone.. Should take at least 10boxes or so..  If a team can get that many into an HQ it should be down for 30mins min..