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Offline killnu

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« Reply #75 on: August 12, 2007, 02:02:22 AM »
there is obviously no legitimate way that anyone can put on muscle mass over 14 years...:rolleyes:
Karaya...no talent?  what exactly are you smoking?  even before the accusations...lets say pre 2000...where I got my 14 years from...multiple MVPs...well on his way to only 500/500 player in baseball history...gold gloves, etc...  He has talent...and has had talent his whole career.

If the leaked grand jury testimony was enough to convict him...dont you think they would have done it prior to him breaking the record?  I sure do.

I am still unsure if he did or did not use...but I refuse to convict him of doing just because the media said so.  If he worked out, tough regime, trainer and all...there is no reason to believe that he could not pack on some muscle over 14 years...heck, I seen people put on 20 pounds over a summer, about 3 months, by having a good diet and working out religiously.  As far as the head thing...my hat size has gotten bigger over the last 10 years...I use to where a 6 1/2 to 6 3/4, now I am up to 7 1/2 to 7 3/4....guess my fat, out of shame, beer swilling butt is on roids now...lol

If they decide to asterik it...they are opening up a can of worms for the everyone who has played the last 10 years or so, at least.  I would expect to see quite a few more asteriks in the books...
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Offline Guppy35

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« Reply #76 on: August 12, 2007, 02:42:51 AM »
The hard part for me with the home run record vs pitchers who might have juiced it is that the game has more and more been changed to benefit the hitter.

The Pitcher no longer has many of the advantages they had before.

The inside of the plate is a no-no now.  The mound was lowered.  Batters are armored up so that they can hang over the plate so the outside corner is less of a factor.

Everything has been geared towards scoring runs including the baseballs themselves.

756 now is not 756 in the 1930s or even the 1960s and early 70s.  And I also like to remember that guys like Dimaggio and Williams lost all those years to WW2 which were the prime of their careers.  Who knows what they might have done had they not missed those 3-4 years of their prime.

Watch some of the old film of Mantle or Mays or any of the 50s and 60s hitters.  Half the time they're bailing out of the batters box because they can't dig in.  The pitchers owned the inside half.  

To be a hitter then was a much tougher job then now I believe.

Of the magic numbers this last week I think the one that was the bigger accomplishment was Glavine's 300th win, a much tougher accomplishment these days then hitting that many home runs.

One look at him and I'd be hard pressed to say he was juiced.
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