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Re: Russia gets owned by a squeaker
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2007, 07:22:21 PM »
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It seems the video or pictures they used to prove they put a flag on the bottom of the north pole ocean was juiced up a bit. Seems they stole video from the movie Titanic to do it. A 13 year old kid from Finland noticed it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/11/wrussia111.xml

silly Russians.. :lol


Funny.

They added some footage from Titanic mentioning it's where Mir probes were used before. I mean -  saw this news programms myself, in my own native language, so I don't care about Finnish teenagers or Zimbabwian pensioneers.

Western coverage of Russian media is amazing.

Noone here ever said that putting a Tricolor on ocean bottom means it (bottom) belongs to Russia.

My best wishes to Western Russophobes: Please go **** yourself. You are incapable of doing anything like that, so keep barking. "Dogs bark, but the caravan keeps going".

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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2007, 07:26:05 PM »
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Yes but it's a "state run" news agenacy.. a little diffrent than CNN.. probably more like Fox News.. :lol


NTV a "state run" TV channel?!

Interesting news for me and their shareholders.

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2007, 07:31:41 PM »
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Noone here ever said that putting a Tricolor on ocean bottom means it (bottom) belongs to Russia.


Why did they plant the French flag?

btw, 'noone' is 2 words not one word.

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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2007, 07:35:59 PM »
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Ya, but the Russians do it better.


LOL we never got a nuclear sub "disappearing" like Scorpion for unknown reason. Komsomolets got most of it's crew saved. Last people leaving the ship got saved from 1.5km depth in a special rescue capsule. Anyone saved from any US sub deeper then 70m?

While vessels like Alvin got used in rescueing a hydrogen bomb near Palomares - our MIRs are used in scientific research and shooting Western movies. Maybe just because we don't drop H-bombs all around?...

Such a shame I missed this thread! :D

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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2007, 07:46:02 PM »
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Why did they plant the French flag?


It's a Commercial Flag of the Russian civilian fleet since Alexander III. Now it's Russian State Flag. Take a Serbian Flag, turn it upside-down - and it's a Russian Flag.  I don't expect you to know the colours of Russian Imperial Flag. Anyway - you probably only need to know the military Red Banner.

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btw, 'noone' is 2 words not one word.


Thanks for the correction, I thought it's like "anyone" or "someone". I promise to correct your Russian if i'll see any mistakes :D

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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2007, 08:00:51 PM »
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LOL we never got a nuclear sub "disappearing" like Scorpion for unknown reason. Komsomolets got most of it's crew saved. Last people leaving the ship got saved from 1.5km depth in a special rescue capsule. Anyone saved from any US sub deeper then 70m?

While vessels like Alvin got used in rescueing a hydrogen bomb near Palomares - our MIRs are used in scientific research and shooting Western movies. Maybe just because we don't drop H-bombs all around?...

Such a shame I missed this thread! :D
1968. K129 sank in the Pacific. All crew died.

1969. Soviet November-class K8 sank off Spain. All crew died.

The loss of crew on Amercain subs comes no where close to the losses suffered by Soviet sub crews.

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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2007, 08:06:22 PM »
Wasn't the gear used in the discovery of the Titanic orginally commisioned to recover top secret parts of that russian sub that sank in the pacific?

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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2007, 08:06:24 PM »
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I don't expect you to know the colours of Russian Imperial Flag.
from top to bottom, white, blue, red.:D

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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2007, 08:17:42 PM »
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1968. K129 sank in the Pacific. All crew died.


Diesel-electric sub.

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1969. Soviet November-class K8 sank off Spain. All crew died.


52 men died. Far from "all crew". It sank surrounded by support and rescue ships due to a fire.

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The loss of crew on Amercain subs comes no where close to the losses suffered by Soviet sub crews.


Define "nowhere close". Losses in American spaceship crews come nowhere near to the losses suffered by Soviet spaceships - true or false?

Sub crews - how far back in time are you going to go? I bet that Soviet sub loses in June-November 1941 were muuuch higher then American. Also Russian sub losses in 1914-1916 were probably higher then American, but I am not quite sure.

Back to the topic: do you have any means to sumberge to the ocean bottom at North Pole and take soil samples?

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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2007, 08:19:18 PM »
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Losses in American spaceship crews come nowhere near to the losses suffered by Soviet spaceships - true or false?


How is that soviet space shuttle doing? Launced it yet?

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« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2007, 08:26:12 PM »
The USSR lost at least four nuclear submarines between 1960 and 1989, and may have lost nine altogether. There were also at least another eight cases (that seem obvious) where lethal levels of contamination or fires occurred on board a nuclear submarine.

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« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2007, 08:26:43 PM »
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from top to bottom, white, blue, red.:D


Wrong. I meant Imperial Flag.  W-B-R  was a commercial fleet Flag as I said. Imperial Flag was quite different, it was used in battle before 1917, unlike modern Tricolor.

Sorry I forgot to mention a Navy Flag in 1696-1917 and now. You simply have to know it: your J.P.Jones fought under that flag. This one you need to know as well as a Red Banner.

Not mentioning naval Battle Flags, stern Flags etc.

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« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2007, 08:31:31 PM »
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Diesel-electric sub.
With nuclear weapons

JP Jones was not one of my countryman.

…on 11 June 1858 for use as a civil flag. Under the influence of German counselors, the government based it on the livery colors of the imperial arms — black and golden yellow, the latter usually represented as orange. A white stripe was added at the bottom lest the flag be exactly the same as the one used by Austria, whose arms also featured a black eagle on gold. White, long a symbol of legitimist monarchies in Europe, was specifically attributed here to the cockades of Peter I and Catherine II. The black-orange-white flag was very unpopular, so much so that the government felt compelled on 7 May 1883 to recognize the white-blue-red as official for use on land during celebrations. Hence the flag intended for unrestricted use was rarely seen in prerevolutionary Russia, while the flag restricted to special occasions was in fact the most likely to be hoisted whenever private citizens wished to express their nationality by displaying a flag on land.
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« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2007, 08:38:51 PM »
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LOL Masher

True.  There aren't many countries who can boast sending their pilots to the show in a high performance fighter jet, then home via commerical airliner  :)


But damn if their ejection seats aren't sexy!  I heard the Su-37's ejection seat out performs the F-22's.




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« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2007, 08:42:04 PM »
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But damn if their ejection seats aren't sexy!  I heard the Su-37's ejection seat out performs the F-22's.




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