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« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2007, 01:33:24 AM »
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I think we can arrange it with Canadians ;) Sane people can always come to an agreement.
Thanks Boroda.

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« Reply #61 on: August 14, 2007, 01:34:14 AM »
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March 18, 1980 - Fifty technicians die at Russia's Plesetsk Cosmodrome when a Vostok booster explodes while being fueled. The incident is reported only in 1989.


keep singing this mantras.

We have made 10 times more launches then the US. About 3000 satellites before 1991. And explosions happen.

Vostok launcher in 1980 - I probably have to check some sources.

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« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2007, 01:37:52 AM »
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Thanks Boroda.


You Canadian?!

Hehe in Australia people sometimes thought I am a Canadian :) Pale skin and a weird accent :)

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« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2007, 01:41:38 AM »
COSMOS DISASTER (1973)

By 1973, the launcher known today as Cosmos-3M was in use in Plesetsk for about six years. According to a post-USSR source, a routine launch was planned for 1:32 a.m. on June 26, 1973s. The preparation, however, run into trouble, when due to a sensor malfunction, the fuel tank was overfilled. The personnel drained part of the fuel and refueled the launcher. Apparently, at this point, the fuel tank developed a leak and 15 seconds before the liftoff, the launch sequence was automatically suspended. The launch was canceled and more than 40-member launch team tried to deactivate the vehicle. At 4:18 and 4:20 a.m. two crews of 13 people were dispatched to the launch pad. At 4:22 a.m. a dual explosion shook the complex, followed by the fire. Seven people were killed at the spot, 13 were injured, two of those later died in the hospital. No announcement about the tragedy was made at the time and its victims were buried in a mass grave in Mirny. A special memorial to the victims of the accident was dedicated in 1974.

VOSTOK DISASTER (1980)

On March 18, 1980, during the fueling of the Vostok-2M launcher with the Tselina satellite, while dozens of military technicians worked on the pad, the devastating explosion incinerated the rocket, killing 50 people. The victims of the tragedy were buried within limits of the town of Mirny, by the same memorial where nine people, who died in a 1973 Cosmos explosion found their final resting place. The official investigation of the cause of the disaster essentially blamed the ground personnel for breaking fire safety rules. However, for years to come the official conclusion was doubted by people familiar with the matter. According to the post-Cold War Russian source, the results of investigation were proved wrong, when on June 23, 1981, a similar disaster was miraculously averted at the last second in Plesetsk. The new investigation pinpointed a valve, made of materials, which on contact with hydrogen peroxide could cause explosive chain reaction. Not until the end of the 1980's an outside world could learn about both accidents.

Unlike many space launch facilities in the World, both Baikonur and Plesetsk are not directly situated on or near a coast. Consequently, the lower, sub-orbital stages of USSR/CIS boosters normally fall back on former Soviet territory. This situation limits the permissible launch azimuths to avoid impacts near populated or foreign regions, e.g., due east launches (the most advantageous) from Baikonur are forbidden since lower rocket stages would fall on Chinese territory. For those launch corridors which are used, tens othousands of tons of spent boosters, many with toxic residual propellants still on board, now litter the countryside. Steps are underway around both Baikonur and Plesetsk to mitigate the situation, but the problem remains monumental.

Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan

Before the successful start of Yuryi Gagarin, on October 24, 1960 a big explosion of the rocket took place on one of the grounds. Up to 100 people were found dead.

On June 16-19, 1963 another rocker explosion took place on October, 24 1963. 7 people were found dead.
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« Reply #64 on: August 14, 2007, 01:52:50 AM »
Milochka, should I post some reports on Western launch explosions? Back in the 80s they showed at least one launch vehicle explosion at Canaveral or Vandenberg a month. Looked like every third Delta or Atlas was set up as a firework.

Again: we made 3-4 launches a week, and explosions happen. When you make 2-3 launches a month and still get a ****up every month - you'd better shut up and listen while big men teach you.

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« Reply #65 on: August 14, 2007, 01:54:44 AM »
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keep singing this mantras.

We have made 10 times more launches then the US. About 3000 satellites before 1991.


What happened to all of them?

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States has 413 satellites in space snooping for the government, checking on the weather and relaying the latest pop music, a new database says. That's more than the 382 the rest of the world has spinning above the Earth.

The inventory, developed by the Union of Concerned Scientists and released Wednesday, provides details on some of the Pentagon's most secret satellites, which may gather images in the dark or take high-resolution pictures from 12,000 miles away.

''Until now, the general public didn't have easy access to information about all active satellites,'' said Dr. Laura Grego, a Cambridge astrophysicist who was on a team that spent several years compiling information on the nearly 800 active satellites. ''No one owns space, so everyone has a right to know what's up there.''

The material was gleaned from corporations, academics, governments and satellite watchers who as a hobby spend their nights watching the skies for flickers of light.

The group's inventory lists 21 different details on satellites with missions ranging from weather forecasting to transmitting music and news for companies like Sirius Satellite Radio. Perhaps most controversially, the repository includes what's known about top-secret spy satellites run by the U.S. and other governments.

With 413, the United States far exceeds other nations in numbers of satellites, often used for communications. The Russians, who follow the U.S. in total number, have 87. The Chinese have 34. The numbers are approximations that may vary depending on how joint ventures are counted.
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« Reply #66 on: August 14, 2007, 02:01:02 AM »
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Milochka, should I post some reports on Western launch explosions? Back in the 80s they showed at least one launch vehicle explosion at Canaveral or Vandenberg a month. Looked like every third Delta or Atlas was set up as a firework.

Again: we made 3-4 launches a week, and explosions happen. When you make 2-3 launches a month and still get a ****up every month - you'd better shut up and listen while big men teach you.
How many people died?

Then it won't be you doing the teaching. :rofl
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« Reply #67 on: August 14, 2007, 02:08:38 AM »
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Milochka, should I post some reports on Western launch explosions? Back in the 80s they showed at least one launch vehicle explosion at Canaveral or Vandenberg a month. Looked like every third Delta or Atlas was set up as a firework.

Again: we made 3-4 launches a week, and explosions happen. When you make 2-3 launches a month and still get a ****up every month - you'd better shut up and listen while big men teach you.


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« Reply #68 on: August 14, 2007, 02:41:35 AM »
Delta has a history of over 300 launches, with a 95% success rate.

From 1969 through 1978 (inclusive), Thor-Delta was NASA's most popular launcher, with 84 launch attempts. Out of the 84 attempts there were 7 failures or partial failures (91.6% successful).
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« Reply #69 on: August 14, 2007, 05:17:46 AM »
Man I can't wait for Putin to catch a cold and Russia plays Ballads on the radio for a Month.


:D


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« Reply #70 on: August 14, 2007, 06:49:06 AM »
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I had two French girls living at my place several years ago - you know, girls on TV or in the movies are quite different from real life :)

Get out more.. ;)
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« Reply #71 on: August 14, 2007, 07:22:04 AM »
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Man I can't wait for Putin to catch a cold and Russia plays Ballads on the radio for a Month.


:D


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dirges, I doubt you'll hear "more than words" :D

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« Reply #72 on: August 14, 2007, 07:40:42 AM »
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dirges, I doubt you'll hear "more than words" :D


My bad... Dirges was the word.

Vodka will be on sale also.

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« Reply #73 on: August 14, 2007, 09:29:48 AM »
funny boroda.
i say NR-!  NR-2..

and you go into a "tantrum:..wow


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« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2007, 09:36:02 AM »
Even after all these years it is still satisfying to see Russia on it`s knees and grasping at straws. :aok
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