Author Topic: Elevator exploit  (Read 732 times)

Offline mtnman

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Elevator exploit
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2007, 04:00:39 PM »
I think you should check into how Combat Trim works.  The "compression" you refer to in the diving 109 isn't even compression so much as it's the Combat Trim trimming you full nose down to keep the nose from raising as speed builds.  If it didn't trim you nose down the nose would come up on its own.  Combat Trim trims the plane to go where you point it (or at least it tries to) regardless of how speed changes.  It does not do a great job at high or low speeds, or in "dirty" (flaps or gear down) configurations.

Manual trimming to bring your nose up isn't really doing anything other than breaking out of the death-trap imposed by the Combat Trim.  To not do that would be like a WW2 109 pilot trimming his elevator FULL DOWN in a high speed dive.

If there is a trim related "exploit" I think it would be difficult to show that manually trimming is an exploit while allowing the computer to trim for you isn't. (Not that I disagree with Auto Trim given the reasoning behind it...)

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Offline WWhiskey

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every body need a little trim
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2007, 06:57:52 PM »
trim was used by 38 pilots to recover from high speed dives and compression because the trim tab moved with less effort than the stick
until the 38 L when counter weights and dive trim was added too the plane
too help recover  i think if you want too use the controls use them, if not  dont, but dont complain about getting shot down by someone who knows how to use them corectly.
 becomeing a better pilot in hear or in the real world means learning to exploit the controls of the craft your flying
just think how mad someone would be if they crashed cause you didnt tell them how to survive
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