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Offline Boroda

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« on: August 15, 2007, 09:22:07 AM »
Anyone going there? August 21-25. Could be nice to meet and have a couple of beers or whatever ;)

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2007, 09:56:05 AM »
two words:

EJECTION SEAT

Stay safe, have a beer for me :)
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2007, 10:34:44 AM »
"The 2008 Model Ejection Seats will be Demonstrated for perspective clients."
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2007, 10:50:14 AM »
I hear envy from some village-dwellers living in a country incapable of making a decent ejection-seat? :D

Some people here work in aero-space companies, maybe anyone coming to Msk?

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2007, 10:52:09 AM »
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I hear envy from some village-dwellers living in a country incapable of making a decent ejection-seat? :D

Some people here work in aero-space companies, maybe anyone coming to Msk?
What country made the first ejection seat?






















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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2007, 11:01:44 AM »
The Germans in 1938 had almost perfected the "ejection seat" as we know it today.   I have been wrong before though.
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 12:08:38 PM »
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I hear envy from some village-dwellers living in a country incapable of making a decent ejection-seat? :D


Maybe if you made decent aircraft you wouldnt have so much practice to perfect them. :D
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2007, 12:26:45 PM »
If I were to collide with another aircraft (which happens from time to time) and I had my choice, I would choose that Russian seat.  Call me communist - but that's my choice.  


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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2007, 12:50:51 PM »
Be honest, you would rather be riding on Martin Baker ;)
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2007, 01:45:06 PM »
I am a sour looser :( Never saw an ejection seat at work, since my first airshow in 1992.

I have heard that Russian Knights got new machines, Su-30s, I don't know if they'll fly them. This year they will show joint program with Swifts (Su-27s and MiG-29s in formation, 9 fighters of 2 types!), plus they'll show "dogfight", 1x1, 1x3 and 2x2. Sounds interesting...

Pictures from a recent airshow in SPb taken by my friend:




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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2007, 01:54:56 PM »
I think that Sukhoi make the best looking fighters in the world, they are beautiful.  I love the paint schemes on the Su-33.

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2007, 05:24:13 PM »
I wish you could see them flying... It's awesome. No video can give you the true impression of how "Cobra" or "Chakra" look when you see them less then 1km away and feel the roar... And when the whole formation of 9 fighters goes vertical right above you - the air itself is trembling, together with the soil you stand on and, of course, your guts :)

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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2007, 05:42:50 PM »
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What country made the first ejection seat?






















:noid



"The first ejection seats were developed independently during the World War II by Heinkel and SAAB. Early models were powered by compressed air and the first aircraft to be fitted with such a system was the Heinkel He 280 prototype jet fighter in 1940. One of the He 280 test pilots, Helmut Schenk, became the first person to escape from a stricken aircraft with an ejection seat on January 13, 1942 after his control surfaces iced up and became inoperable. However the He 280 never reached production status. Thus, the first operational type to provide ejection seats for the crew was the Heinkel He 219 Uhu night fighter in 1942.

In Sweden a version using compressed air was tested in 1941. A gunpowder ejection seat was developed by Bofors tested in 1943 for the Saab 21. The first test in the air was on a Saab 17 on 27 February 1944[1] and the first real use in July 29, 1946 after a mid-air collision between a J 21 and a J 22.[2]

In late 1944, the Heinkel He 162 featured a new type of ejection seat, this time fired by an explosive cartridge. In this system the seat rode on wheels set between two pipes running up the back of the cockpit. When lowered into position, caps at the top of the seat fitted over the pipes to close them. Cartridges, basically identical to shotgun shells, were placed in the bottom of the pipes, facing upward. When fired the gases would fill the pipes, "popping" the caps off the end and thereby forcing the seat to ride up the pipes on its wheels, and out of the aircraft. By the end of the war, the Do-335 Pfeil, Me-262 Schwalbe and Me-163 Komet also were fitted with ejection seats."

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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2007, 05:43:01 PM »
I love to catch a good airshow whenever one's close, Boroda, but as you can tell from my signature, the Moscow AS will be a little bit too far to drive:lol

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2007, 05:59:21 PM »
the loudest most impressive sound I have ever heard on this planet was the sound of Four General Electric F-101-GE-102 turbofan engines in afterburner pointed right at me about 1/4 quarter mile away as a B1-B flew directly away from my location during an airshow at McChord AFB.  It sounded like the entire earth was splitting in half.  A truly beautiful airframe too.
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