Author Topic: Oh Yes, Another Bring back the DA Thread  (Read 627 times)

Offline Vudak

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« on: August 17, 2007, 12:40:04 AM »
Dear HTC,

I respectfully request that you turn killshooter off for the DA.  I do not request any other changes except for this.  

I understand that you may have gotten fed up with the threads complaining about a new guy or two who would go into the DA to vulch, and I understand that I was a part of the problem in these threads as well.

I believe that your reasoning behind turning killshooter on in the DA was to try and end such behavior in the DA and the pain in the butt whining about it on the BBS.

Since killshooter was turned back on, there have been a number of suggestions on how we could find a happy medium ground.  Suggestions such as DA moderators, squad killshooter off, etc., and I can only surmise by your lack of response to such suggestions, that you thought said suggestions were no good.  I'm sure you have your reasons.

So now, I'm only suggesting that we go back to killshooter off, with no other changes.  I do this for a simple reason:

Nothing has really changed for the positive.  You can still find a new guy interrupting duels fairly often in the DA.  It's just a fact of life that some people are going to do this, be it out of ignorance, or apathy towards others.  The current lack of threads on the topic may be wrongly interpreted as, "problem solved."  It isn't.  But we have seen what happens when we get too aggravated by this problem, and I believe the community is capable of having a longer fuse with such people in the future.

However, many things have changed for the negative.  The most glaring being that getting a group of guys together for duels in the same sector requires splitting them into two groups.  Can we deal with this?  Yes.  Quite a few of us did tonight.  But it would be better for us, and more enjoyable for us, if we didn't have to.  It would be very nice to be able to fight anyone in the sector without first having to auger, change coutries, take off, fly across the sector, and engage.

I understand that you might be very wary of trying this.  I understand that Skuzzy might not like the idea of having even MORE threads to interrupt his weekends with ;) and I understand that you may think that the way the DA used to be simply cannot work.

I ask for the opportunity to prove your fears negligible.  I would very much appreciate it if you would turn killshooter off on a probationary status, and see how it plays out for a month.  Please give us another chance at this.

Thank you,
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2007, 12:41:19 AM »
Ending free H2H permanently and bringing back the old DA would be two great moves IMO.

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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2007, 01:18:13 AM »
At least turn off killshooter for members of the same squad in the DA.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2007, 02:38:13 AM »
can i ask whats the problem with flying 5miles to meet the con inbetween bases? This isnt quake, never was and never will be.

if you wana kill things the instant you spawn, try TT.

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2007, 02:42:13 AM »
Can't play tag with KS on.

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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2007, 04:02:15 AM »
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At least turn off killshooter for members of the same squad in the DA.


yeah it used to bee way more fun to have a squad wide free for alland not have to split into teams on different sides.

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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2007, 10:02:10 AM »
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can i ask whats the problem with flying 5miles to meet the con inbetween bases? This isnt quake, never was and never will be.

if you wana kill things the instant you spawn, try TT.


You've obviously never spent any time in the DA back when it was off.

Edit - for the actual reason?

As I explained, perhaps poorly, in my first post, with killshooter off, when you get a bunch of guys who like to duel each other together, you can duel ALL of them easily, instead of having to switch countries everytime you want to give another guy a shot.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2007, 10:07:33 AM by Vudak »
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2007, 10:07:02 AM »
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Originally posted by Anyone
can i ask whats the problem with flying 5miles to meet the con inbetween bases? This isnt quake, never was and never will be.

if you wana kill things the instant you spawn, try TT.


Stops squads like mine being able to do king of the hill e.t.c.

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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2007, 10:45:47 AM »
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can i ask whats the problem with flying 5miles to meet the con inbetween bases? This isnt quake, never was and never will be.

if you wana kill things the instant you spawn, try TT.


You can still do that with KS on if thats what you like.  Why cant I do what I want?  

It is not about being quake. Its about being able to fight any of the guys you are with instead of having to switch sides and having to guess who the guy you were looking for is.
It is also about policing the thing.  If someone comes in and repeatedly interupts my duels I will be able to fix the problem myself.

But, what do you know anyway?  You just figured you'd make an ignorant statement about something that does not effect your game play in any way shape or form.  WTG :aok
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2007, 10:59:33 AM »
I rarely go into the DA in AH (I think I've been there 2-3 times) but I might if the rules were more like they were in AW.  You both took off from the same field, flew opposite directions until out of icon range, then turned back to fight.

You'd also have to make sure there's no ack in the DA (not sure if there is or not).

The resulting fights in and around the airfield structures were a blast.  

I remember dueling a squaddie one night and we were so low we kept losing each other because we were on opposite sides of the tower.  Flying through hangers and other trick moves would only add to the dueling experience.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2007, 11:26:25 AM »
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Originally posted by BaldEagl

You'd also have to make sure there's no ack in the DA (not sure if there is or not).



Part of the beauty of killshooter off is that you don't have to worry about the ack to have obstacle filled fights like this :aok

You should come into the DA more often.  There's a good chance you'll find a few of us in the same sector fighting it out.  Just ask what channel we're on and come have a blast and make some new friends.  You'll probably even find some of the people you disagree with often on the BBS (Me, for one :D ) are nice ego-less people in there :aok

If you enjoy dogfighting, you'll never has as many fights-per-hour anywhere else :)
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2007, 11:56:29 AM »
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Ending free H2H permanently and bringing back the old DA would be two great moves IMO.


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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2007, 11:58:12 AM »
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Yes.

I agree with stang and spikes.