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Offline Toad

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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2006, 12:11:03 PM »
Yer thinkin' that it might be tough to hold a ~6g level turn at 90mph and full flaps?

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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2006, 01:10:35 PM »
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Would the Spit 14 turn better to the right than the left (because of the Griffon engine)?  

Maybe that is why it had such a poor showing compared to the Spit 16.. it weighs the same but has more horsepower.. so shouldn't it turn better?



Think Spit LFIXe when you say 16 Urchin.  That's what it is, only with an American built Packard Merlin.  16 was not a follow up to the 14.

The XIV would not out turn a lighter Spit.  Consider they thought about changing the name of the Griffon Spits because they were in essence different birds.  The Spit XIV relied much more on speed, climb etc.  

Spit V should out turn a Spit XVI low and slow too.  It's that much lighter with that much less wing loading plus the full span wing.  It's probably why the slightly heavier 8 with a full span wing, can hang with the XVI with the clipped wing.  Both have the same engine.
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2006, 01:33:02 PM »
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Was surprised that the Yak gains less from flaps than the La's.

 


Me too  (but then Yak flaps are some what smaller than La flaps)

I think we have found an arguement for the Yak3 (250kg lighter than the 9U)........... which could sustain turn 360 in 21 secs fully loaded in "clean condition".
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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2006, 02:48:02 PM »
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Yer thinkin' that it might be tough to hold a ~6g level turn at 90mph and full flaps?

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Yeah ... maybe after the first 2 or 3 minutes of going around in circles ...
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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2006, 02:59:19 PM »
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Me too  (but then Yak flaps are some what smaller than La flaps)

I think we have found an arguement for the Yak3 (250kg lighter than the 9U)........... which could sustain turn 360 in 21 secs fully loaded in "clean condition".


Yeah ... a Yak-3 with the 107 engine would be serious fun ... it'd be worth learning to aim those meager guns to fly it.
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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2006, 03:33:01 PM »
Humm... ive read your new list... looks good... cept for the spit mk.1 (prob knew i was gonna say that) , ive been flying it along time now... i haven't been out turned by any plane... but there was 1 time and 1 time onlt that ive had a a6m2 turn with me... untill someone (my prnts) destracted me :-(
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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2006, 03:44:12 PM »
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Yeah ... a Yak-3 with the 107 engine would be serious fun ... it'd be worth learning to aim those meager guns to fly it.

Yak-3 with the VK-107 didn't enter service until after the war was over.  The WWII Yak-3 was powered by a VK-105.
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« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2006, 04:00:29 PM »
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Was surprised that the Yak gains less from flaps than the La's. And that the La-7 slightly out-turns the La-7. I expected the other way around.
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I think you meant you were surprised the La-7 out turns the La-5.

Me too. The La-5 has the reputation of being the more highly manueverable plane.

But if you look at the HTC plane stats pages, the La-7 is lighter, has more power,and they have the exact same wing area.

So it makes sense it turns beter, even if the difference is only very slight.

The rep might come from the La- 7 having a stronger tendency to jump into a spin when on the edge because of the extra power.
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« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2006, 04:01:18 PM »
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Yak-3 with the VK-107 didn't enter service until after the war was over.  The WWII Yak-3 was powered by a VK-105.


Oh well ... the VK-105 ain't bad either ... climbs to 15K in 4 minutes (5min for the 9U) ... looks about the same top end as the 9U, but it must accelerate like crazy.
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« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2007, 01:08:35 AM »
I would like this file but the link to the .pdf seems to be dead.
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« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2007, 12:55:14 PM »
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I would like this file but the link to the .pdf seems to be dead.

Same for me
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« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2007, 01:04:21 PM »
I have a copy on my machine and moved it to the AT&T server. It dates back to when the P-38s had a high drag flap problem.

You can get it here.

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« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2007, 01:07:02 PM »
Thanks WW
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« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2007, 01:29:30 PM »
Thanks much Widewing :aok
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