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Offline Nifty

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« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2001, 02:52:00 PM »
Possible reasons why no one else wants to be a Knight.  (I'm a Knight, obvious since I'm a Flying Mongrel!)
  • If you fly Knight, you can't hit the silk because FDB is always right there to shoot at ya!   ;)  
  • Uhmm, our sheep aren't as good as the other sheep?  
  • Knit beer isn't as good as Bish and Rook beer?  
  • The glare off of Rip's head is distracting?
  • You might have me watching your 6! (Knit says "Nifty, help!"  I say "OMW"  Knit reads Some_BishRook has shot you down. THEN Victory 1 by Nifty.  I'm always just a day late and a dollar short on clearing 6's.  :( )
  • You have Drex and Cit shooting AT you instead of WITH you (along with FDB, Damned, AK, etc...)
  • We're named after baby lice!  :D
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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #76 on: June 21, 2001, 03:11:00 PM »
Here's the root of the problem:
   
Many would rather be a sophisticated looking gentlemen than a medieval structure or a horse head   :)

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« Reply #77 on: June 21, 2001, 03:22:00 PM »
Knits got associated with LW... and they left.  :)
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« Reply #78 on: June 21, 2001, 03:37:00 PM »
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Here's the root of the problem:
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Many would rather be a sophisticated looking gentlemen than a medieval structure or a horse head    :)

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It could be worse...  I could be associated with a horse's ass!   :D  Wait, I'm sure you all already think of me as that! :P
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« Reply #79 on: June 21, 2001, 03:39:00 PM »
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Knits got associated with LW... and they left.   :)

Hangtime, don't know if you're joking or not but I think you may be right.

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« Reply #80 on: June 21, 2001, 04:14:00 PM »
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In the software, all sides are the same. Why don't people play as Knight?

Good luck!


ummm
cause the knights are out numbered?
cause if you want to fly knight you have to want to be fighting at 3 to one constantly..

How can you seperate the condition from the game? Of course people want to fly for the larger battalion, God is on their side!
They get to seem noble and self assured cause they dont whine....
Why is it so hard to understand that once established the natural tendacy is for this condition to continue? The uber side is not going to give up its advantage. The weaker side is going to get weaker as people quit and change side to enjoy the game instead of being victimized by it.
You are insinuating that the knights bring this on themselves. Knights just arent cool like you I guess. Its not the fault of the pilots. Nor is it some great credit to the bish that they have numbers. The condition is self perpetuating.
Its time for some idiot to post a "recruit your way out of the bucket" statement again.
The game has to be changed to take into account that the sides have to be somewhat ballanced to allow a common chance for all sides to expericance the same game.
There are many carrots that HTC could use to do so.

review this from a thesaurus
Game
Synonyms FUN 1, jest, joke, play, sport
Contrasted Words business, duty, labor, study, toil

The game is what you make of it. But certainly its not unreasonable to have it somewhat ballencing.

Maybe HTC could offer 10$ accounts to people to fly Knight..Maybe 60 of them would join at a time.

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« Reply #81 on: June 21, 2001, 04:17:00 PM »
LOL!

Yep, that's the easy way out alright.  :D
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« Reply #82 on: June 21, 2001, 05:06:00 PM »
First off....understand your frustration with the Rooks hitting A11 Apache...was a little frustrated myself (Rook since open beta days) watching us lose V46 and A45 while they were busy hitting A11.  Our squadron continued on hitting the Bish at A22 and finally captured it.  Hoping to draw the Bish away from a defense of A45 and V46 we continued on and took A25 and A24.  But were not successful at drawing them from thier northern defense....instead we drew some away from thier reset plans on your main island.

Not sure what the answer is to the low numbers issue.  Perhaps having the reset occur with more bases (5 or 6??) would not have so many folks logging while waiting for the bases to dwindle to such an "uncomfortable" level before the reset.  Might also encourage the aggressors to get it over with more quickly (get them 25 points and lets do it again sort of attitude). Anyway, that it is frustrating to say the least IS an issue.  Hate to see it as a topic all the time.

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« Reply #83 on: June 21, 2001, 05:20:00 PM »
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First off....understand your frustration with the Rooks hitting A11 Apache...was a little frustrated myself (Rook since open beta days) watching us lose V46 and A45 while they were busy hitting A11.  Our squadron continued on hitting the Bish at A22 and finally captured it.  Hoping to draw the Bish away from a defense of A45 and V46 we continued on and took A25 and A24.  But were not successful at drawing them from thier northern defense....instead we drew some away from thier reset plans on your main island.

Not sure what the answer is to the low numbers issue.  Perhaps having the reset occur with more bases (5 or 6??) would not have so many folks logging while waiting for the bases to dwindle to such an "uncomfortable" level before the reset.  Might also encourage the aggressors to get it over with more quickly (get them 25 points and lets do it again sort of attitude). Anyway, that it is frustrating to say the least IS an issue.  Hate to see it as a topic all the time.

RAS

In my experiance in the last week or so the bish are not having any trouble with aggression..they are going for the reset full bore...They arent trying to set up some lame vulch or something. They are going for it.

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« Reply #84 on: June 21, 2001, 05:32:00 PM »
I always hesitate to post to this kind of thread.  In the past I would have just thought it was our turn in the bucket, but this has gone on too long.

I've had a lot of work to do recently, so I've not been online much in the past 2.5 tours or so.  (I doubt I have 10 hours total in the last 2 tours combined.)

I still like AH, but recently everytime I log on we are outnumbered, getting gangbanged with no radar.  This has gone on so long that many of the Knight regulars have just started to log off or just furball at the same field.  There is absolutely no way that we can possibly defend against 3 to 1 odds.  Because of that I'd say most of the knights are just furballing just to have *some* fun.  (I know I have, look at my spitfire stats starting from 2.5 tours ago.)

It's begining to be kind of amusing to log on at around 7PM, see that we have 4 fields, no dar, and every base is being vulched.  I then usually log off without saying a word.  I can honestly say that I haven't been online for a single minute in 2 tours where we weren't outnumbered or being hit by both countries while they basically ignored each other.  ( I have probably 10 screenshots on my 2 computers of this. ) At first I made a couple posts, but anymore I just have stopped caring.  :(  Just one night I'd like to login and find we have more than 7 bases and 1 cv fleet.  Radar and a city at 100% would also be a plus.

I know that if this continues for much longer I'll be forced to stop playing AH, and that is a decision I'll hate to make.  :(  (I've been here since the second week of open beta.)

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« Reply #85 on: June 22, 2001, 09:21:00 AM »
toad...."Or, it COULD be because there's something about Knightland that isn't appealing to a lot
                     of folks. This is the hard way, the unappealing way to look at the problem.

                     I'll bare my soul here a second (and get flamed for it, of course.) Long ago there was a
                     player shift. Many of the LW squads went to Knights, as was certainly their perogative.
                     This in and of itself really wasn't the problem. However, some of the more famous
                     complainers in the game ended up in K-land because of this."

That is what I meant.... I also meant that if you only fly bish and think that they are great guys and you also like it when squads rotate into bish land then why not rotate yourself...
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« Reply #86 on: June 22, 2001, 02:26:00 PM »
Interesting that its the LW players fault.
The plane that was perked almost in conjunction with the demise in knight fortunes and that was really the signiture plane for the knights was the chog.

If there is one thing that probably triggered the absence of strat players from the knights it was more likey to be the perking of the chog than any other.

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« Reply #87 on: June 22, 2001, 02:30:00 PM »
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Interesting that its the LW players fault.
The plane that was perked almost in conjunction with the demise in knight fortunes and that was really the signiture plane for the knights was the chog.

If there is one thing that probably triggered the absence of strat players from the knights it was more likey to be the perking of the chog than any other.

Oh GAWD pongo, gimme a break! LOL!  Nice try, sorry, but fresher bait would be better!  ;)

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« Reply #88 on: June 22, 2001, 04:18:00 PM »
My hypothisis is probably 20 times more likey the one above it.

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« Reply #89 on: June 22, 2001, 04:25:00 PM »
Yah, shure; yu betcha. It's the C-Hog players that have left AH... I remember seeing all those "goodbye" posts from THEM.

  ;)


...and then there's Milnko's thread

that could be 23.675% more likely.


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