In defence of younger players

[DamnedRen]

Originally posted by croduh
This game is not just a game for a long time now.

Just felt i had to say that.

I have no idea what that means nor what planet it came from but I gotta agree with whatever yer saying. Do you happen to know a guy named Mongo who's running for the Mayor of Memphis but they won't let him?

[SIK1]

Originally posted by DamnedRen
I have no idea what that means nor what planet it came from but I gotta agree with whatever yer saying. Do you happen to know a guy named Mongo who's running for the Major of Memphis but they won't let him?

Just exactly does the Major of Memphis do?

[Tiger]

I'll just chime in a say there is a difference between age and maturity.

I know 12 year olds who are evry mature and 20 year olds who are not.

[DamnedRen]

Originally posted by SIK1
Just exactly does the Major of Memphis do?

LOL go back and read it again!

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Tiger
I'll just chime in a say there is a difference between age and maturity.

I know 12 year olds who are evry mature and 20 year olds who are not.

The torch has been passed on to some of the 40-50 year olds that play the game.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by DamnedRen
LOL go back and read it again!

PWN!

[toonces3]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
Those who behave well have never had to defend themselves for doing so.

[ghi]

i would dump them all in a massive squekers SQD, with Michael Jackson as a CO,

[LYNX]

Look.....it's the same every year in school brake.  Once upon a time kids were dumped in front of TV's to keep them out of mischief, with friends on the street and if country folk to stop then interfering with animals.

Now we have the intardnet but it's the same deal.  Many kids are dumped in here and they are sociopaths.  Inept interpersonal skills and a "I want" attitude, coupled with the fact their nuts ain't dropped makes them sound squeaky.

Some kids games have a thing saying suitable for 8 to 12 year olds and so on.  This game ain't got no such thing.  All you need is 15 bucks from mummy or daddy and their pleased to cough it up.  Little johnny ain't tearing around the streets or playing with fire in the barn.  Does mummy or daddy understand this is populated by a vast amount of adults...no they bleeding don't and do they bleeding care.  Not 1 bit after all little johnny is only playing with other kids and out of mischief in their rooms.

Kids on the whole are a pain in the arse and the majority disappear when schools back or parents feel they should concentrate on studies.

Some kids are cool though.  They have a mature and polite attitude coupled with interest to learn the game and indeed be taken serious by adults. Their the ones we like. but the others are little more than sociopaths.  

I come here to play a game to keep me occupied in an evening away from freakin TV adverts and repeats.  I ain't here to baby sit a snot nose kid who's parent could be busy shaggin the next door neighbour for all we know.  No sir I ain't kid friendly when their stepping in my free time and being a pain.  Let their parents look after them.

[Baine]

Originally posted by Tiger
I'll just chime in a say there is a difference between age and maturity.

I know 12 year olds who are evry mature and 20 year olds who are not.

Well said. I've heard some of the way the so called "mature" players treat the kids and they are just jerks. In my 7 or so years in here, I've got to say, I've never seen the treatment of new players so bad.
If it makes you feel more like a man to abuse some 12 year old on the internet, well ....

[Dichotomy]

Originally posted by Shifty
I think your intentions are noble. I don't bash the youngsters while flying. I do squelch the inpatient  bothersome ones when they get annoying, or fly out of  their vox range as soon as possible. Plus it's not the ones asking for help, that are annoying. It's the ones that scream for attention, or pork the text buffer with JOIN MY MISHUN 40 times, the list can on and on.

I believe in helping anybody with the game, that wants help.

A few places in your post you leave the planet.

"It is also our duty and responsibility as Men to show youngsters the path to manhood."

No, it's not. I've fufilled that responsibility with my own four sons. This job belongs to the young man in questions father. Besides the child's father may not agree on your path to manhood.

"In today’s society many young men are raised alone by their Mothers and have very little contact with their Fathers. (wisdom of judges?)  This is a void that we in this community can fill. "

Judges don't keep fathers away from their sons. If a father doesn't spend time with his son, it's his own fault not a judges. I don't pay $15 bucks a month to fill voids. Theres plenty of things like that you can do in your real life community that would be real help to young people in need. THIS IS A GAME, not a social aid society.

"Ask yourself: ….”What have I done to help a young man mature and follow the way of the Warrior” ?

Again, THIS IS A GAME. We are not here to teach young men to be warriors, nor should we be. It's foolish to equate this game with real warriors, what they go through, or the character it takes to be a real warrior. This is not real war.

" To those of you who help shape the leaders of tomorrow, I salute you all!  Remember this:  …”Today’s Rookie, is Tomorrow’s Superstar”

You do you realize there's a real world outside? Other than a couple of thousand of us internet airplane tards, the rest of the world is unaware of any supposed rookies, superstars, or leaders, in this GAME.

I'm all for being polite to the youth in this game, until they display behavior that is disruptive. I'm in favor for helping those who ask for it. I'm also for keeping this game in perspective.

Agreed.  

I'll add here.  There are a lot of kids who play this game honorably and within acceptable, to me anyway, etiquitte.  If one of them asks me for help I'll be happy to give it.  But the little generals and the ones that don't take the time to learn the basics can be annoying.  Patience is the key in my mind.  Of course I have 4 squeakers running around the house so I'm used to it

[Donzo]

Originally posted by DamnedRen
Do you happen to know a guy named Mongo who's running for the Mayor of Memphis but they won't let him?

I do.

[999000]

999000<----------raises  his hand asks..... "how old is Skyrock"

[Dichotomy]

Skyrock is immortal

He was born in ancient Carthage from the union of Skianna a princess from an ancient lineage and Rockius a celebrated General and skilled tactician in the Roman army.

At his birth Zeus himself came down and proclaimed that he would own any and all who stood in his way and dubbed him Skyrock and incidentally was named his Godfather.  An aside here Skyrock the horse head in my bed the other day was not funny.  

He walks the earth eliminating dweebs wherever he finds them.

Of course that's just a theory of mine.

[StuB]

1) The younger players bring it on themselves.

2) The young player in your example represents a small percentage of the youngsters who come here to play.

3) While you and your sqad mates may have had some affect on the young man you mention....it is likely not as much as you think.

4) It is up to the youngsters parents to give them guidance, not us....a bunch of total strangers.  We can set examples that their parents can point to....other than that we bear no responsability.  Many young men (and women) are being raised in situations where the other parent is absent.  In every case I know, the other parent, whether male or female, is either absent by choice or because they chose to break the law and are incarcerated.  It's not the judges fault.  If you want to fill the "void" left by the missing parent, that's fine, go sign up for "Big Brothers" or volunteer at the YMCA so you can PHYSICALLY interact with the kids.  

5) Teach the "way of the warrior" over the Internet????  For some reason, I don't think you are joking about this.  You can't teach someone how to be a warrior on the frigging Internet.  I reccommend the Marine Corps...they will teach them everything they need to know.

6) ....Superstars......right.  

Originally posted by Helm
I am really tired of the endless bashing of the younger players that join our community.  I find this bashing 10 times more childish then any antics that a younger flyer does.  I find the term “squeaker” offensive and irresponsible.  
    In the summer of 1998 in Air Warrior a Father and a Son joined our squad, the boy was 13 at the time.  The father’s interest waned and he soon stopped flying.  Yet his son continued on with us until the Winter of 2006.  
    The young man become a great flyer and got better and better as time went on.  His attitude was very positive and he was always ready to join in what ever the squad was up to.  
    At the age of 16 this young man took flying lessons and obtained his private pilot’s license.  He then began working on his instrument flying  ratting which he accomplished.  He is now in college and working towards a masters degree.
     I feel strongly that the example set by myself and the members of our squad helped to shape this young man’s future.  We always treated him as an equal and provided guidance and leadership to him.  I think he enjoyed having adults he could hang out with and talk to on a 1 to 1 basis.  
    The fact is that parents can’t do it all for a child.  It is also our duty and responsibility as Men to show youngsters the path to manhood.  In today’s society many young men are raised alone by their Mothers and have very little contact with their Fathers. (wisdom of judges?)  This is a void that we in this community can fill.  Young Warriors need to be shown the path, not berated for their mistakes.  Set an example, make a difference in a young man’s life.  

Ask yourself: ….”What have I done to help a young man mature and follow the way of the Warrior” ?

     To those of you who help shape the leaders of tomorrow, I salute you all!  Remember this:  …”Today’s Rookie, is Tomorrow’s Superstar”



Sincerely

Helm