ENY, what exactly is the point?

[Relorian]

Also, and I hate to say this, but even if you had been able to take off the AR-234, chances are you would have crashed it on takeoff, or, barring that, you probably would have crashed it on landing.  They are not trivial to land, and you'll undoubtedly lose several of them to landing accidents before you get used to it and get the technique down.  The jet planes in the game are like that.  They take forever to slow down, so if you're coming back to your base in a 234 at 10,000 feet and 425 mph, good luck getting down anytime soon.  One good hint is this:  use a lot of side-slipping (hard rudder, hard aileron in the opposite direction, causing your plane to slide kind of sideways through the sky, losing speed as it goes) to bleed your energy, and plan plenty of time and space for your slowdown and landing approach. [/B]

In my month of playing AH 2 I've never lost an AR-234 to landing problems. I have lost one to a take off problem but it was solved by realizing that the Rato units could be fired AFTER taking off to rapidly gain altitude, thus avoiding the hill in my way. After that it became rather easy to take off from just about anywhere.

You do make a good point though. Most people fail to consider that the jet bomber goes much faster than a normal bomber so you must take more time to consider landing it. Usually I'll just shut off the engines and glide a while sector to lose alt and speed enough to consider landing somewhere. I've even managed to land a 234 on a CV though it was in no condition to take off after i'd finished the landing (took damage and lost fuel so i had no choice but to stall/land it on a CV). Use the speed bleeding method mentioned above as it works rather well and will allow you to lose quite a bit of speed quickly, as does shutting off engines, bleeding speed and pulling slightly up. Though that usually results in a stall landing and they are not easy on a plane. You will end up usually breaking props off on prop planes or breaking the wings off on  the 234.

[Snubby]

Originally posted by sethipus
y're cheap, and hold onto your points when they're expensive.

Also, and I hate to say this, but even if you had been able to take off the AR-234, chances are you would have crashed it on takeoff, or, barring that, you probably would have crashed it on landing.  They are not trivial to land, and you'll undoubtedly lose several of them to landing accidents before you get used to it and get the technique down.  The jet planes in the game are like that.  They take forever to slow down, so if you're coming back to your base in a 234 at 10,000 feet and 425 mph, good luck getting down anytime soon.  One good hint is this:  use a lot of side-slipping (hard rudder, hard aileron in the opposite direction, causing your plane to slide kind of sideways through the sky, losing speed as it goes) to bleed your energy, and plan plenty of time and space for your slowdown and landing approach.

Well, Im not an idiot so of course i practiced quite a bit with it WELL before i considered purchasing one, its not at all hard to take off or land, you just have to use the whole runway for takeoff, and start further out on your landing approach, if you try to dig it in like you can other bombers you will overshoot..

If flown about 12 sorts in the MA with it now, thing is a riot.

[Latrobe]

ENY is an excellent device used to help make the war as fun as possible by slowing down the one country with mass amounts of players online. Plus, it helps out players learn how to fight. Would you like to see a country with a 50 player advantage flying La-7s, Spitfire 16s, and P51-ds, capturing bases in record time, and your country, with less players on, just don't have the numbers to counter? That's why we have ENY, so your country can take the uber planes and actually have a chance to fight back. If your on the country with the ENY then you are forced to fly something other than the La-7 or Spit 16. You have to start flying P40's, 190s, and 109s, and now have to learn how to fight. Therefore improving your skills.

I say support ENY...We always have Spitfire Mk I's

[BaldEagl]

I've never lost an Ardo to landing either.  In fact they are one of the easiest planes to land as long as you get rid of speed early.

I've been flying them almost exclusively for buff missions the past 3-4 months and have only lost 2 over that time, both to puffy ack.

I have had to abort 2 formation missions though.  It used to be I'd pull flaps up immediately and hit the RATO's at 115 mph but lately that's been causing a big nose bounce that's slapped me right back into the runway with auto take-off on.  Both of these happened last camp I think it was.  Fortnately it broke gear off on the runway both times and I stopped for successful landings.

I love flying home from target at 450-465 mph though.  Sometimes I'll fly through big red dar bars just so I can wave at the fighters trying to catch me... bye now... bye bye...  

[yanksfan]

Originally posted by The Fugitive
You have to remember that this is a game, and that HTC is a company out to make money. As the population of one contry goes up, it will start having a numbers advantage. With the advantage they can dominate the other countries, taking away their "fun", and possible loosing customers due to them always being dominated ( this happen in the past enough to start the EMY).

Seeing as HTC wants to keep its customers, and to do this tries to keep them "happy" they had to do something to even things up. "Forcing" you to switch countries to even numbers wasn't going to work, so instead they set it up so that as your countries numbers increase, you loose the ability to use the better equipment. This way, even tho one team is out numbered, they should still be able to compete with the better equipment. Think of it as your country isn't able to keep up with the demand due to so many people being on, so some of you have to use old equipment that's been lieing around the airfield

I hate to say this,,,,, I really do,,,,,,,,,,,,but in the past when i did whine on a tad about ENY, i was told to switch sides, tho i still think this is an overly simplistic answer, that I will not give, when i flew as a knit for several months, I forgot all about ENY, it rarly comes into play for knits, at least when i was online, so if you really hate Eny, that is a possible solution, become a knit.

i still don't like ENY but I do enjoy my  Rook friends, but on occasion , and i learned this after telling people i would be the last rook, that it is ok to switch sides, i have freinds in all three countrys and tho I have not switched much lately, I always have friends to fly with if I want to switch.

I do understand people who don't want to switch, but i also do on occasion switch, but i'll always come home to greater Rookovia.

just my .02

[uptown]

I see we're on this subject AGAIN  If you can't get your spit or lala, try resuppying a base or two until the eny changes.  Ask not what this game can do for you, but what you can do for this game!
                                   
                                         DISMISSED PVT DWEEB !!!!!!!!!!!

[Relorian]

After having to endure a "Eny Sucks" conversation today and thinking about it and attempting to explain it in game, i have a good explination for ENY. Others have said it before but ENY is semi realistic. Heres Why:

Durring WW 2 it was Production Vs Attrition for Planes, Pilots and GV's.
This means that not everyone is going to get the newest gear available when they get into the field because others already got the newest equipment and the production levels are not able to keep up.

In the war, squads of planes were sent out while newer versions were available because at the time, they did not have enough or could not deploy them as fast as the squads needed them. The navy is a prime example of this. The SDB was a superior divebomber to the Helldiver in almost every way. Yet the Helldiver was deployed throughout most of the early war because the SDB was not available in large numbers. The TBM replaced the Devistator in much the same way. However pilots were still issued Devistators until a sufficent supply of TBM's could be readied and deployed. The Marines similarly had supply issues. Often VMF squads were issued older F4U's until the newer models could be readied and sent up to the front.  

That is exactaly what ENY does. It keeps in check a sides ability to fly the newest and best equipment. The more players you have, the more planes you have flying and the more planes get shot down. In real life this would mean pilots would be issued older planes, sometimes with upgraded parts, instead of the newest and best. ENY works in playing the part of supply limits. AS our player base on one side increases, the ENY goes up because we out number the other sides. Our supply of new, up to date planes goes down as we continue to out number the opponents. As more of them log on, our ENY drops and if they out number us, the ENY of their sides goes up and ours drops.

anyway hopefuly that makes as much sense to readers as it does to me. I may have gotten a few planes mixed up but im pretty sure i've got it right.
If anyone complains in the game, point em to this thread so they can stop their complaints about how much Eny "Sucks".

Live with it, learn to fly older, slower planes and bombers or go to another arena.

[yanksfan]

Originally posted by Relorian
After having to endure a "Eny Sucks" conversation today and thinking about it and attempting to explain it in game, i have a good explination for ENY. Others have said it before but ENY is semi realistic. Heres Why:

Durring WW 2 it was Production Vs Attrition for Planes, Pilots and GV's.
This means that not everyone is going to get the newest gear available when they get into the field because others already got the newest equipment and the production levels are not able to keep up.

In the war, squads of planes were sent out while newer versions were available because at the time, they did not have enough or could not deploy them as fast as the squads needed them. The navy is a prime example of this. The SDB was a superior divebomber to the Helldiver in almost every way. Yet the Helldiver was deployed throughout most of the early war because the SDB was not available in large numbers. The TBM replaced the Devistator in much the same way. However pilots were still issued Devistators until a sufficent supply of TBM's could be readied and deployed. The Marines similarly had supply issues. Often VMF squads were issued older F4U's until the newer models could be readied and sent up to the front.  

That is exactaly what ENY does. It keeps in check a sides ability to fly the newest and best equipment. The more players you have, the more planes you have flying and the more planes get shot down. In real life this would mean pilots would be issued older planes, sometimes with upgraded parts, instead of the newest and best. ENY works in playing the part of supply limits. AS our player base on one side increases, the ENY goes up because we out number the other sides. Our supply of new, up to date planes goes down as we continue to out number the opponents. As more of them log on, our ENY drops and if they out number us, the ENY of their sides goes up and ours drops.

anyway hopefuly that makes as much sense to readers as it does to me. I may have gotten a few planes mixed up but im pretty sure i've got it right.
If anyone complains in the game, point em to this thread so they can stop their complaints about how much Eny "Sucks".

Live with it, learn to fly older, slower planes and bombers or go to another arena.

Well, i suppose thats one way of looking at it, actually if you'd like to use WWII as an example, the loosing side generally got out numberd and their equipment got to be old reused repaired and not replaced due to losses thru combet, not the winning side, eny like it or not is simply in place to get players to even out arenas by switching sides so they may get the rides they would like.
 simple, you wanna fly whatever is in the hanger the sides need to be even, so in order to even sides we have eny, weather this serves its purpose is a matter of opinion, it is there as an attempt to adjust sides and inhance game play it has no basis in reality no matter how you put it.

this is simply a game ,no more and no less, eny was put in to adjust sides and that is all.

just my opinion

Don

[VWE]

Originally posted by Nilsen
ENY is a great tool for balancing out the arenas and since it never affects me i can support it 100%

Politicians should get ENY rated.. the guys with most cash and friends in the correct places should get less air time, and vice versa

I hit an ENY of 27 this morning, I think even that would effect you...

[VWE]

Originally posted by uptown
I see we're on this subject AGAIN  If you can't get your spit or lala, try resuppying a base or two until the eny changes.  Ask not what this game can do for you, but what you can do for this game!
                                   
                                         DISMISSED PVT DWEEB !!!!!!!!!!!

Some tours I've flown the mossie and only the mossie, this morning I hit an ENY of 27 that didn't allow me to up my uber l33t mossie... and I've not flown a lala in I don't know when.

[kilz]

Originally posted by Nilsen

Squelch Bronk and Nilsen

[Helm]

ENY can be a good thing!

[Shuffler]

ENY is a good thing. If you see it try changing sides to the lower number team. You'll be able to find more & better fights this way.