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Offline Souless

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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2007, 02:38:38 PM »
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Can't comment on pilot armor, but I've never seen the Mossie as special in that regard.  All twin engined fighters in AH seem excessively prone to pilot wounds.

The flame dampers are still on, I topped out at 338mph on the deck with 50% fuel.

The handling is massively more benign.  I was able to pull over the top, shuddering on the edge, and not enter a death fall.


Have to agree with this.
Found myself on the edge shuddering normally this would induce the death stall but it pulled through nicely.
Also found the high speed hi g turn it did not flip over into a flat spin.
I am especially pleased it does not turn into a roman candle like it use too.
I am disappointed to see the flame dampeners still on hopefully when it gets a rebuild they will be off.
This plane is a personal favorite and I just want to say thanks for the fixes HTC

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« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2007, 02:48:42 PM »
Does this mean you'll be changing your avatar? :D

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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2007, 03:04:28 PM »
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Does this mean you'll be changing your avatar? :D


It's now free until the dampeners are off.
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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2007, 03:04:59 PM »
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Does this mean you'll be changing your avatar? :D


Not untill its entirely free

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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2007, 08:32:51 PM »
Mossie seems real crisp as well

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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2007, 11:57:44 PM »
I just tried to do some hard manuevering with it, and unless I am mistaken, the Mossie just got a lot more dangerous to the enemy as a fighter.  I was pulling things in it that I'd only have tried in a P-38 before (amoung twin engined aircraft).
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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2007, 12:10:04 AM »
I saw 4 mossies below me (was at 20K in a B25) about 5K or so.  I passed them as they were outbound of the base I was inbound to.  They pulled a massive immelman and ended up at the same alt  and heading as me.  Not only did they shoot me down with ease, the closed the gap even after the immelman with alarming ease.  The new Flight model on the Mossie is to be feared indeed, of course that is to say that I will still provide staunch resistance in my 109, 190, and P38 as I have found a solid well planned offencive against "feared" planes often frustrates their pilot and leads to a kill.
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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2007, 12:45:42 AM »
Keee-rist.

All this good news and I'm on the road, gotta work 24-7 during my days at home.

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... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2007, 02:15:55 AM »
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I saw 4 mossies below me (was at 20K in a B25) about 5K or so.


Err that was me in the lead mossie.:D

We were stoked that we were able to pull the manouvre you describe so well.  After that encounter, we continued north and met with a spit who fought well, but was dispatched by numbers and firepower.  An F4U helping him dived on me moments after I shot the spit.  He was 400 and shooting when I pulled the snap.

The spin developed almost instantly and down I went.  Nothing and I mean nothing worked.  I do know how to pull out of a spin.  I have done it here and in real life.  I started this thread about 45 seconds later.  

I have been able to recreate the spin offline.  If others can't, well good on them.  I have also found that when the spin is incipient, an immediate closure of the throttle will prevent it and the plane will mush.  As such it isn't  the horrid always fatal nonsense of the past.  The way the mossie now handles the stall under 99% of conditions is brilliant.  In fact it has now morphed into a stall fighter.   I would suggest that a P38 pilot would love it.

Unless something else emerges unforeseen, then I would further suggest that the "fix" is good and doesn't need more tweaking.  My first flight of the "new" Mosquito ended with an all too familiar outcome.  Because I half expected it, I made the mistake of assuming that it would still be the rule rather than the exception.   I apologise for allowing my dissapointment cloud my judgement.  The aft c of g problem will seemingly only occur under particular load out conditions and then only with rough handling.  If you find yourself doing this, then like I did, you probably deserve to start again from the tower.

Is there a chance that the Spit 9 and 110 might be dealt with similarly?
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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2007, 04:53:28 AM »
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Have to agree with this.
Found myself on the edge shuddering normally this would induce the death stall but it pulled through nicely.
Also found the high speed hi g turn it did not flip over into a flat spin.
I am especially pleased it does not turn into a roman candle like it use too.
I am disappointed to see the flame dampeners still on hopefully when it gets a rebuild they will be off.
This plane is a personal favorite and I just want to say thanks for the fixes HTC




awesome flying in the DA strich S!
we did:

moss vs P51D - which was pretty much even

moss vs moss - i got my arse handed to me.

moss vs nik2j - nik dominated still at low low alts, but not so at 5000ft.


strich is trying to take Thrila's spot as mossy ace :)
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« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2007, 05:33:18 AM »
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Err that was me in the lead mossie.:D

We were stoked that we were able to pull the manouvre you describe so well.  After that encounter, we continued north and met with a spit who fought well, but was dispatched by numbers and firepower.  An F4U helping him dived on me moments after I shot the spit.  He was 400 and shooting when I pulled the snap.

The spin developed almost instantly and down I went.  Nothing and I mean nothing worked.  I do know how to pull out of a spin.  I have done it here and in real life.  I started this thread about 45 seconds later.  

I have been able to recreate the spin offline.  If others can't, well good on them.  I have also found that when the spin is incipient, an immediate closure of the throttle will prevent it and the plane will mush.  As such it isn't  the horrid always fatal nonsense of the past.  The way the mossie now handles the stall under 99% of conditions is brilliant.  In fact it has now morphed into a stall fighter.   I would suggest that a P38 pilot would love it.

Unless something else emerges unforeseen, then I would further suggest that the "fix" is good and doesn't need more tweaking.  My first flight of the "new" Mosquito ended with an all too familiar outcome.  Because I half expected it, I made the mistake of assuming that it would still be the rule rather than the exception.   I apologise for allowing my dissapointment cloud my judgement.  The aft c of g problem will seemingly only occur under particular load out conditions and then only with rough handling.  If you find yourself doing this, then like I did, you probably deserve to start again from the tower.

Is there a chance that the Spit 9 and 110 might be dealt with similarly?


CC,
I know it was you that shot me down, it did not bother me that badly I EXPECTED to get burnt flying that clunker in the LWA. :rofl
You have to give me credit though, I was not like all the herds of dweebs on the deck with it.  I actually climbed to a decent alt, not that it helped me any.  The moment I saw your flight of 4 Dantoo I knew that was my doom, I just was testing the new plane out. ( I had my lone gunner ready to fling spit balls out the window at ya):lol

  Seriously though it was pretty amazing to watch y'all pull such a HUGE immel like that, I was expecting y'all to plummet like the mossie of old.:aok

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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2007, 05:44:00 AM »
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I was expecting y'all to plummet like the mossie of old.


You see, you and I both had the same expectation!:D   Three minutes later it happened!

When you get a bunch hit you like that, it's best just to pick one and hammer the crap out of him.  They will still get you but for sure one won't be celebrating with the rest :)
I get really really tired of selective realism disguised as a desire to make bombers easier to kill.

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