Author Topic: Mosquito is fixed!!! (Read 4397 times)

Yarbles · « **Reply #30 on:** August 28, 2007, 11:25:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Treize69
Part of that is the exhaust baffles. The extra drag and lack of exhaus-stack thrust hampers its performance.

But were they not only for night fighters and therefore irrelevant in this context?

Karnak · « **Reply #31 on:** August 28, 2007, 11:48:45 AM »

About 2/3rds of Mosquito FB.Mk VI's were equipped for daylight ops and baout 1/3rd had the flame dampers for night ops.

Yarbles · « **Reply #32 on:** August 28, 2007, 11:51:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
About 2/3rds of Mosquito FB.Mk VI's were equipped for daylight ops and baout 1/3rd had the flame dampers for night ops.

And how many night opps in any meaningfull sense have we flown. I would say approximately nil so what was going on at HTC when they modeled the mossie? and how much difference in % terms does it make to speed?

38ruk · « **Reply #33 on:** August 28, 2007, 12:33:50 PM »

Well according to a military channel program on WWII Aircraft , " It had stealth like capabilities that made it virtually undetectable by radar "

. LOL i want that fixed

Karnak · « **Reply #34 on:** August 28, 2007, 02:06:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Yarbles
And how many night opps in any meaningfull sense have we flown. I would say approximately nil so what was going on at HTC when they modeled the mossie? and how much difference in % terms does it make to speed?

That was the data that was available. Mossie performance data is hard to come by.

I think more is available now.

Krusty · « **Reply #35 on:** August 28, 2007, 02:19:09 PM »

Our B-25C has flame dampers too. The square bumps on each nacelle are the exhaust fairings, designed to remove the flame glare. Before those were put on (so I've read) they were so visible that night missions were banned on the early models.

So, doesn't matter if they FLY at night. I see it as a valid part of the plane, even if flown in daytime. It's not like you can just take it off when the sun rises.

Is it representative? 1/3 is a pretty big chunk. Sure, NOT having them would be nicer, but I think the uproar over them is a bit overblown. It might be nice to (eventually) have an earlier model WITH the dampers, and a middle-to-later model WITHOUT them.

It would make them a little more destinct from each other (assuming we ever get more variants of the mossie!)

Gowan · « **Reply #36 on:** August 28, 2007, 03:57:21 PM »

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Originally posted by 38ruk
Well according to a military channel program on WWII Aircraft , " It had stealth like capabilities that made it virtually undetectable by radar " . LOL i want that fixed

look on the last page, i already brought that up

oh and bozon, the stealth was in the design, not matierial

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #37 on:** August 28, 2007, 04:14:09 PM »

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Originally posted by bozon
Until I see some numbers for the radar cross-section of the mosquito relative to other fighters, I consider this a myth.

Two engines have enough metal in them to compensate for the fabric and wood, I should think. Also, not only metal reflects radar. Even birds reflect radar.

Actually, the all wood construction of the airframe did make the Mossie rather stealthy compared to the other planes in WW2. No, it wasn't completely invisible to radar but it did have a rather low radar profile compared to the other aircraft and did give German radar operators a tough time in locating them.

ack-ack

morfiend · « **Reply #38 on:** August 28, 2007, 04:19:52 PM »

The Mossie is fixed somewhat,but dont bother with it. Afterall it's an unarmed bomber,not a fighter:lol Your better off in a 51 ,16 or LA.
the Mossie is just a waist of your time,so leave it in the hanger.....

Souless · « **Reply #39 on:** August 28, 2007, 04:27:23 PM »

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Originally posted by morfiend
The Mossie is fixed somewhat,but dont bother with it. Afterall it's an unarmed bomber,not a fighter:lol Your better off in a 51 ,16 or LA.
the Mossie is just a waist of your time,so leave it in the hanger.....

it's unarmed? wow didnt know that:rolleyes:

morfiend · « **Reply #40 on:** August 28, 2007, 04:32:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Souless
it's unarmed? wow didnt know that:rolleyes:

Well thats what I keep getting told......
setting the hook:t

Treize69 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 28, 2007, 06:39:34 PM »

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Originally posted by morfiend
the Mossie is just a waist of your time

Like spelling class was?

Gianlupo · « **Reply #42 on:** August 29, 2007, 03:51:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
I was quoting or paraphrasing this skit based on 1) your use of the word "banter" and 2) my missing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKYL0tW-Ek&mode=related&search=

Ahhh... never saw that one, Karnak, sorry.

moot · « **Reply #43 on:** August 29, 2007, 02:59:52 PM »

The fuel tanks don't drain in the right order like they were made to in the 51 and 190s.

Yarbles · « **Reply #44 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:44:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Our B-25C has flame dampers too. The square bumps on each nacelle are the exhaust fairings, designed to remove the flame glare. Before those were put on (so I've read) they were so visible that night missions were banned on the early models.

So, doesn't matter if they FLY at night. I see it as a valid part of the plane, even if flown in daytime. It's not like you can just take it off when the sun rises.

Is it representative? 1/3 is a pretty big chunk. Sure, NOT having them would be nicer, but I think the uproar over them is a bit overblown. It might be nice to (eventually) have an earlier model WITH the dampers, and a middle-to-later model WITHOUT them.

It would make them a little more destinct from each other (assuming we ever get more variants of the mossie!)

I thought this was a get the best most realistic day fighter bomber mossie society post not a lets make excuses for HTC outing:mad:

HTC gets $15 a month from us I think thats enough.

We have already got 3 types of B25. What we want is at least one accurate, relaistic day time Mossie cos that is when we use it. I would have thought adjusting the existing plane is allot easier than bringing out another version. If we are going to have a second Mossie I would like a no guns high speed bomber with drones to spend my perk points on. A bit like a 234 with a 4000lb load, a bomb sight and a bit cheaper than the 234.