Author Topic: Has Ditching Changed... (Read 1650 times)

xtyger · « **on:** August 25, 2007, 12:35:33 PM »

Since this latest upgrade?

Seems to me you used to be able to ditch in enemy territory and cheat your opponent out of a kill, as long as you ditch right.

Twice, since the latest upgrade, I've done good ditches in enemy territory only to have the message come up that my opponent shot me down and I'm captured. Didn't it used to be that you'd get a message that you had ditched and been captured?

Did this change since the upgrade or has it always been like that and I'm remembering wrong?

Guppy35 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 25, 2007, 12:43:27 PM »

Remembering wrong. If it's in enemy territory that's how it works.

xtyger · « **Reply #2 on:** August 25, 2007, 12:50:40 PM »

I thought that was just for gvs and if you were within 6k of an enemy. I guess not?

xtyger · « **Reply #3 on:** August 25, 2007, 12:56:09 PM »

Let me reiterate that I'm wondering about my opponent getting a kill after I've ditched. I know I get captured if I ditch in enemy territory. I just don't remember the opponent getting a kill (except in gvs).

Snubby · « **Reply #4 on:** August 25, 2007, 12:56:15 PM »

i had the same thing happen yesterday, we in a tangle with someone, got hit and got an oil leak, got away and ditched.. soinso shot you down... before if you landed it just said that you ditched or you were captured..

xtyger · « **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2007, 01:04:25 PM »

Thanks. I was thinking so. It would say both: "You have ditched" and next "You have been captured".

I can see the guy getting the kill if you crash, instead of ditching, but these last two ditches I'm talking about were textbook ditches (if I do say so myself) and I even got the message that I'd ditched but the cons still got the kill.

So maybe that has changed.

Snubby · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2007, 01:27:17 PM »

if it has, i guess its a wash as to weather its positive or negative..I guess maybe they should get the kill if your deep in Indian country.. if you think about it in real life its just effective.. you shoot the guy, he has to ditch on YOUR turf.. pilot is captured, plane is total loss to their side... no different than a bonafied "shoot down"

on the other hand, if you get plugged and manage to limp your way back into friendly territory.. ditching within a few K of a friendly base or town.. maybe that shouldent count as a kill, because the pilot can just catch a sheep and ride it back to base and hop in another ride, and the plane .. is at least partially salvageable..

GunnerCAF · « **Reply #7 on:** August 25, 2007, 01:35:05 PM »

It's been that way. If you are hit, and ditch near they guy that hit you, he gets the kill.

Gunner

xtyger · « **Reply #8 on:** August 25, 2007, 01:35:05 PM »

I see your point, Snubby, but I think a ditch shouldn't be a kill in either friendly or enemy territory.

Ditching can really take some work sometimes. Heck, a lot of the time. You might have oil all over your cockpit and maybe even a dead engine. You have to time everything just right to find a place to ditch and still have some momentum in the plane left to maneuver and find a safe spot to land, IF you can find a safe spot to land.

If you're in enemy territory, that might make it even harder, as you might have a better chance of enemy still after you.

I think a lot of people underrate ditching. It takes skill and a lot of luck.

I say if you ditch, you deserve to cheat the con out of his kill. After all, he can always try and shoot you down while you're trying to ditch.

GunnerCAF · « **Reply #9 on:** August 25, 2007, 01:45:44 PM »

If you shoot someone, he smokes, and hits the ground, is it counted as a kill. If they guy climbs out, is it still a kill?

A kill is recoreded when a plane is downed. A death is recorded when the pilot dies. Some kills are not a death, some deaths are not a kill. Makes sense to me

Gunner

Lusche · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2007, 02:35:18 PM »

If my memory does not fool me:
If I was pinged before ditching in enemy territory, I have always gotten a "XXX shot you down" - unless that very enemy was killed / has landed before my ditch.

crockett · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2007, 02:42:48 PM »

I think it might be affecting planes aswell. I ditched a plane within my own radar range the other day and when I towered the other pilot still got a kill on me.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #12 on:** August 25, 2007, 02:49:39 PM »

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Originally posted by GunnerCAF
It's been that way. If you are hit, and ditch near they guy that hit you, he gets the kill.

Gunner

This is incorrect. You could ditch with the guy 200 away from you but if you are in friendly territory, it's a ditch w/ no kill awarded.

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I ditched a plane within my own radar range the other day and when I towered the other pilot still got a kill on me.

Some radar areas overlap. It's simply based on what base you are closest to. If, for instance, you ditched in radar range of your friendly base but you were closer to an enemy CV, you would have a "captured" recorded and not a ditch. It's that simple.

Snubby · « **Reply #13 on:** August 25, 2007, 03:10:08 PM »

I know for a fact that you could ditch before in enemy terr without a kill being given to the other guy, I had an osti at and enemy V base rip the wing off mg G2 but I was at such level and going so slow that when I hit the ground, i lost the other wing and just slid, to a stop.. and got a ditch, other guy got no kill.. and he was RIGHT THERE.

IMO he SHOULD have recieveds a kill, he put me out of action and on the ground with half a plane in enemy territory.. thats as much of a kill as anything IMO.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #14 on:** August 25, 2007, 03:27:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Snubby
I know for a fact that you could ditch before in enemy terr without a kill being given to the other guy, I had an osti at and enemy V base rip the wing off mg G2 but I was at such level and going so slow that when I hit the ground, i lost the other wing and just slid, to a stop.. and got a ditch, other guy got no kill.. and he was RIGHT THERE.

IMO he SHOULD have recieveds a kill, he put me out of action and on the ground with half a plane in enemy territory.. thats as much of a kill as anything IMO.

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