Has Ditching Changed...

[Snubby]

I dont record every time i get shot down..

that would be alot of film:(


and no, im not mistaken.  the sole reason I remember the event was for the fact that I managed to get shot down but was so low that when I hit the dirt I didnt explode.. and instead got a ditch.

cant do much to reproduce it now since its changed.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by Snubby
I dont record every time i get shot down..

that would be alot of film:(


and no, im not mistaken.  the sole reason I remember the event was for the fact that I managed to get shot down but was so low that when I hit the dirt I didnt explode.. and instead got a ditch.

cant do much to reproduce it now since its changed.

It hasn't changed.  If you were in enemy territory, you didn't get a ditch, you got a capture.

[bj229r]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
You're mistaken.  Post a film.

I have seen it too Steve (in months past) PISSED me off too! Have a long fight with some guy (SECTORS from anywhere like home for him), I realized his oil leak is now a dead engine, next thing ya know, he slows up, ditches, I get NUthin (except or the 'kissing-your-sister' kind of feeling that I won the fight)

[Snubby]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
It hasn't changed.  If you were in enemy territory, you didn't get a ditch, you got a capture.

ditch, capture... whatever..  nobody was given a kill for it is the point, which is different now.  Now it would say "you were captured, XXXXX shot you down"

[WMLute]

Ok, to clear up a few points.


1. Unpinged (no enemy has landed a round on you)

You can land in enemy territory and nobody will get the kill on you as long as no enemy are within' D2.5

2. Pinged (you have been hit by enemy fire)

If you land in enemy territory and the person that pinged/shot you is still alive, they get the kill if you tower out.  They could have hot padded, and be 1/2 way across the map, they still get the kill credit.  If the person that pinged/shot you is dead, see #1.


Friendly territory you can land and tower and they won't get the kill.  D2.5 or ping/shot matters not.

Same as it has been for years and years.  
Nothing has recently changed.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by Snubby
ditch, capture... whatever..  nobody was given a kill for it is the point, which is different now.  Now it would say "you were captured, XXXXX shot you down"

There is a difference.  If the person that pinged you had ended mission/ been sent to tower and no-one was within 2.5 of you, no kill would be awarded.

Nothing has changed regarding this recently.

[Bubbajj]

Since we're on ditching, What I think is totally idiotic is that you can belly land on the strip and your ok. Slide off the strip and into the grass and it's counted as a ditch. I think if you make it back to the field and set it down in any fashion you should get a safe landing. So you slide off the runway a few feet? So what? It's stupid stupid stupid.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Bubbajj
Since we're on ditching, What I think is totally idiotic is that you can belly land on the strip and your ok. Slide off the strip and into the grass and it's counted as a ditch. I think if you make it back to the field and set it down in any fashion you should get a safe landing. So you slide off the runway a few feet? So what? It's stupid stupid stupid.

And as soon as the whole field gives you a legit "landing" people will start to  say: ""So you slide off the field a few feet? C'mon, I mean grass is grass, just because I slide 5 ft further...."

[Snubby]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
There is a difference.  If the person that pinged you had ended mission/ been sent to tower and no-one was within 2.5 of you, no kill would be awarded.

Nothing has changed regarding this recently.

ok, you know what? forget it, disregard.. its all good, forget it.

[CAP1]

Originally posted by xtyger
Since this latest upgrade?

Seems to me you used to be able to ditch in enemy territory and cheat your opponent out of a kill, as long as you ditch right.

Twice, since the latest upgrade, I've done good ditches in enemy territory only to have the message come up that my opponent shot me down and I'm captured. Didn't it used to be that you'd get a message that you had ditched and been captured?

Did this change since the upgrade or has it always been like that and I'm remembering wrong?

it has seemed to me that at least for the last few months, if there was ANY enemy within a short distance of you...in enemy or friendly territory, you gave them a kill when you ditched. i've been on both ends of this..i've gotten kills because a guy ditched after i shot him up.....and i did see him make a good landing.....and i've ditched and when i exited flight, i got the ""so and so has shot you down"" message.
i realy think you need to simply try to get pretty far away from any enemies.....airborn or goundborn .


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[Guppy35]

Ok what makes sense in the overall scheme of things.

I'm on my way in my 38G over Rabaul and I get shot up and I have to ditch.  I get captured and finish the war as a POW or worse executed by the Japanese MPs on Rabaul

Thats about as much of a kill as you can get.

On the other hand, I'm in my 38G over Rabaul and i get shot up.  I somehow manage to make it to friendly territory and while I don't make the field, I ditch it in a field where later on the Engineers recover my bird, ship it back and have it rebuilt.  Meanwhile I return to flying.

That ain't no kill.

So if I ditch in AH near an enemy base and I'm captured the guy who shot me up should get the kill.

If I'm defending my base and I get shot up and ditch near my field.  He shouldn't get a kill.

Isn't that how AH does it?  That's how I've always seen it.

[Gianlupo]

I think Tyger is right, it's been changed, but not in this version. Even in the previous one it was this way... while, IIRC, with 2.09/2.08 and previous ones, if you got to ditch in enemy territory, you were just captured, no kill awarded to anyone.

[VonMessa]

Originally posted by Lusche
And as soon as the whole field gives you a legit "landing" people will start to  say: ""So you slide off the field a few feet? C'mon, I mean grass is grass, just because I slide 5 ft further...."

I completely get your point, Lusche.  But, would it not be fair that if you were to land with at least 1 wheel on the strip that it would count as landing?  I have (on more than one occasion) made it back to base by the skin of my teeth, broken, out of fuel, etc, and barely landed on the strip(hanging halfway off) only to ditch.

     That being said, I am totally aware that improving my skill will make things easier overall.  ust my opinion.

     Thanks for shooting me down so many times:D I learn something from every film that I watch of you tearin' me up.  I mean this sincerely and honestly.

[Lusche]

Thanks for your kind words.
If you ever want to know how things were looking in my cockpit, contact me. I usually film every combat, for I have still a lot to learn myself. So I most probably could make you the film available.

[DEMONSLAYER]

everything WMlute said was right. if you try to ditch anywhere near enemy territory you will get a capture if there is a bad guy near you then he will get the kill. and it counts as a kill for them.

now if you try to ditch in a friendly territory then you will get a ditch, no matter how many times some 1 has pinged you if you land a ditch in FRIENDLY territory then you will get a ditch.

nothing has changed in this perspective.