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« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2007, 05:09:26 AM »
I watched about five minutes of that sappy "documentary" which is about as much as I could stomach.

people who join the armed services do so with the implicit understanding that they may go in harm's way and they may not return.  the contractors that select to go into a war zone know they aren't going to resort.  those contractors are well remunerated, commensurate with their level of risk in the particular job they do, training and experience.  for some of these guys it's all they know and they are willing to accept the same level of risks they accepted from uncle sugar work but for many times more money.

naturally, some of the parents and the loved ones of those that fall will be bitter and look to blame or lash out at the gubment but I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of those same people understand that their loved one died doing something they wanted to do and accept the fact that we are all mortal and one day must die.  these contractors rolled the dice and lost, they paid with their lives but they knew the stakes going into the game.  they are no less heroic than the grunt who gets killed for doing his duty as private.

what is cheap is the reaction of the families and worse the exploitation of these emotions by people like robert greenwald.  if there is a slimey war profiteer it's people of this ilk and supporters of his work like you hand wringing apologists for everything that is wrong with america.

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« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2007, 05:53:46 AM »
if you had watched more than 5 minutes of it you might have a more accurate synopsis of what it was about.

but i suppose we should be happy that you tried...and made it that far.

...must have been hell.

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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2007, 08:25:52 AM »
LOL... texasmom... it is on cable.   It is pretty bad.  If what it said was true ever soldier over there would be dead.. no food or arms.

The republican party is not my party..  I vote for em tho to make sure democrats don't get in.    bush is not my pres but... what choice did I have?

I am sure that there is a grain of truth to the documentary.   I can't imagine that some skimming does not happen.... IT ALWAYS DOES.   Every thing the government touches.. republican or democrat.

I bet that with the amounts we are spending it is proportional tho...

I think that like so many lefty "documentaries" it hurts itself by being so far out... Watching it is like listening to a lefty....  He starts out with something he thinks will shock you... you nod your head and smile... he doesn't see the shock and indignation that he wants so he says something even more outrageous... you look a little skeptical so... he starts to act a little agitated and tells a bigger story for "proof"... you say.."I don't know about that..." and he get's angry and the whoppers really start flying along with the name calling and spittle.

liberals always start out slow and with a smile but if they don't get their way they go further and further into anger and exaggeration.   That is exactly how the movie unfolds for me.   A cheap copy of the michelle moore technique.

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« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2007, 12:44:56 PM »
why do birds suddenly appear..........
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« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2007, 12:47:54 PM »
Especially the interview with KBR employees saying they tried desperately to warn the Marines about unsafe water but were sent home instead. Yeah, that's all lefty B.S. Just because 28 out of 32 plants were putting out bad water why should they gripe? They are Marines, what do they need pure water for? They are in the desert for cripes sake, suck it up like Lazs would if he was there.
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« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2007, 01:09:04 PM »
every time you are near........
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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2007, 01:10:33 PM »
resisting...urge...to....sing gggg...

mmmrrrrrrnnnnnnggggghhhhhhh!!!!
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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2007, 01:13:44 PM »
just like me, they long to be........
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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2007, 02:25:19 PM »
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were you guys born that way or is it learned behavior?


or in your case..hatched  :D

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« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2007, 02:35:40 PM »
rpm... please link me to a story that was done on the bad water.   How many marines got sick or died from this bad water?  where is the story?

I would follow the links from  the "documentary" site but they are laughable.  Did you look at any of it?

Think about it...  we have a media that is thirsting for some dirt on iraq...  any bad news is smeared all over the tube for weeks and yet...

All this horror is going on....high level whistle blowers can't get an interview on CNN?  LOL..

Hell... if half the stuff was true the liberal weenies and hand wringers in our media would have been smearing it all over every news station in the country..

Yet... here... all compacted into one amazing documentary is everything the democrats would need to have every republican rounded up and shot...

How could they have been so blind these liberal media types?  

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« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2007, 02:39:41 PM »
did you watch it lasz or are you just discrediting it right off hand on the merits of the website?  can you be more specific as to which sources are bunk?

i provided the link for you in case you'd like to actually sit down and watch it.

no need to thank me.
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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2007, 02:43:21 PM »
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did you watch it lasz or are you just discrediting it right off hand on the merits of the website?  can you be more specific as to which sources are bunk?

i provided the link for you in case you'd like to actually sit down and watch it.

no need to thank me.


Have you ever read any of his posts in the past.. Even if you provided him with a linkage, he would come up with some other excuse as to why it's not real proof.
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« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2007, 02:48:37 PM »
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rpm... please link me to a story that was done on the bad water.   How many marines got sick or died from this bad water?  where is the story?

I would follow the links from  the "documentary" site but they are laughable.  Did you look at any of it?

Think about it...  we have a media that is thirsting for some dirt on iraq...  any bad news is smeared all over the tube for weeks and yet...

All this horror is going on....high level whistle blowers can't get an interview on CNN?  LOL..

Hell... if half the stuff was true the liberal weenies and hand wringers in our media would have been smearing it all over every news station in the country..

Yet... here... all compacted into one amazing documentary is everything the democrats would need to have every republican rounded up and shot...

How could they have been so blind these liberal media types?  

lazs
Lazs, if you will just watch the film, it will give you all the info you ask. I am not your personal R & D Dept.
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« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2007, 02:51:14 PM »
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I watched about five minutes of that sappy "documentary" which is about as much as I could stomach.

people who join the armed services do so with the implicit understanding that they may go in harm's way and they may not return.  the contractors that select to go into a war zone know they aren't going to resort.  those contractors are well remunerated, commensurate with their level of risk in the particular job they do, training and experience.  for some of these guys it's all they know and they are willing to accept the same level of risks they accepted from uncle sugar work but for many times more money.

naturally, some of the parents and the loved ones of those that fall will be bitter and look to blame or lash out at the gubment but I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of those same people understand that their loved one died doing something they wanted to do and accept the fact that we are all mortal and one day must die.  these contractors rolled the dice and lost, they paid with their lives but they knew the stakes going into the game.  they are no less heroic than the grunt who gets killed for doing his duty as private.

what is cheap is the reaction of the families and worse the exploitation of these emotions by people like robert greenwald.  if there is a slimey war profiteer it's people of this ilk and supporters of his work like you hand wringing apologists for everything that is wrong with america.


Storch I'll agree with you and say that the beginning of this documentary is poorly done IMO. The first time I watched it, I thought it would easily give doubters an easy out.

Ignore the family stuff at the start and watch the full documentary, about half way through they start getting into the good stuff.  Meaning non family members and actual employees of the various contractors.

I made a post about this documentary on this forum a while back.. it is worth the watch and IMO should be watched. There is a lot of BS going on over there and these companies are making millions on the back of our soldiers.

My post on the subject http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=209990&highlight=iraq+sale

You can also see the vid on the site in my sig..  http://www.welched.com
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« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2007, 02:53:57 PM »
the libbys are crawling out from under the rocks, it must be ELECTION TIME.