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Offline FBBone

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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2007, 01:32:17 AM »
None taken, but there really is a huge difference in what my kids play on and what I played on, artificial turf that is.  I was worried too, so I put on some cleats and ran on the stuff before I'd let my boys out on it.  After that, I'd feel better with them playing on the artificial stuff.  The surface is more consistent at least.  No hard or soft spots, and it will give under pressure.
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2007, 01:35:01 AM »
No disrespect, but that looks like carpet to me.
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The knee. Always, the knee.


(I went to edit and wound up deleting.)

It's not the hardness I'd be concerned about. It's the grip. They play in tennis shoes, not cleats and they will grip instead of slip. I'm sure newer is definitely better than the old stuff, and a lot of larger schools use it but I'd still have a concern for anything under college level playing on turf.
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2007, 01:35:12 AM »
........and after further review of the photos, I'd agree with the carpet diagnosis.   In fact, they aren't wearing cleats at all!
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2007, 08:05:03 AM »
PENTALTY FLAG!!!!



I'm seeing lot's of HOLDING on that line.

10 yard pentalty....


2nd and 20.


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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2007, 08:10:16 AM »
No cleats allowed on this field. You can wear regular tennis shoes or "Turf Cleats" which are short nubby things not unlike indoor soccer shoes. As FBbone said above, there's a "sponge" feel to it like a wrestling matt, but not so much that it slows ya down.

I've never seen a knee injury in junior football in the 3 years and 140 games I've witnessed. Seen lots of kids get sprained ankles after being rolled up on , a couple of concussions, but never a knee injury. Wife claims that their tendons and ligaments at this age are not fuzed to the bone quite yet and "float" more, therefore reducing the injury factor on the ACL, etc.  (Shrugs)  It's not until roughly age 13-15 that these "fuze", thus the reason docs never want kids to lift heavy weights until at least 15-18 years old(however low weight, high repetition is okay)

The favorite field by all kids to play on is naturally grass, not because of the injury thing that we parents worry about, its because if its raining, they get to get real muddy. ;)
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2007, 11:19:47 AM »
I agree, Holding, 10 yard penalty.

That turf isn't the newer type of turf commonly used, at least in the area I am from. The new stuff is very forgiving. Problem is all the little black rubber things that come home in the shoes and end up on mama's hardwood floor.
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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2007, 11:27:45 AM »
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I agree, Holding, 10 yard penalty.

 

You guys are talking about the guy on the left? Possibly, but they never call that sort of holding unless the guy you're blocking starts to move laterally.  If you're talking about my son (center photo, hands on the inside) that could be considered inside holding but its never called in this league, and rarely called in the NFL. Remember, you can literally see holding in every down of football to some extent.

You can grasp a jersy and block, pushing back. They'll never call that. But if you continue to grasp when the defender moves laterally, or tries to move by you, that's holding. Both kids are driving their defensive people backward.

Also, this turf is less than 7 years old. Its not "Turfy Grass" that you guys are referring to, but its not that old stuff that NFL guys used to blow their knees out on either.

Now, how about some kudos for my kid lifting his opponent off the ground and driving him into the linebacker? He reads this thread too ;)
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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2007, 03:18:19 PM »
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Now, how about some kudos for my kid lifting his opponent off the ground and driving him into the linebacker? He reads this thread too ;)
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Nice hit, BTW.
Never said he didn't lay down a good block. Just concerned about the kids blowing an ACL. ;)
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2007, 03:35:58 PM »
Ok Rip, kudos!!

My 12yr old just got sidelined for a couple weeks because of a bruised sternum & strained ligaments/muscles in ribcage.
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2007, 03:36:49 PM »
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Ok Rip, kudos!!

My 12yr old just got sidelined for a couple weeks because of a bruised sternum & strained ligaments/muscles in ribcage.

:( That sucks BG. Tell him we hope he gets well!
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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2007, 05:27:31 PM »
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I agree, Holding, 10 yard penalty.

That turf isn't the newer type of turf commonly used, at least in the area I am from. The new stuff is very forgiving. Problem is all the little black rubber things that come home in the shoes and end up on mama's hardwood floor.


Thats the stuff!!!
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2007, 05:51:11 PM »
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I agree, Holding, 10 yard penalty.

That turf isn't the newer type of turf commonly used, at least in the area I am from. The new stuff is very forgiving. Problem is all the little black rubber things that come home in the shoes and end up on mama's hardwood floor.


thats what i was about to post, that stuff came along years after i was done.

Worst two feilds i played on were Tully in Houston which you could see the concret through it it was so worn out and the Astrodome. That place was a an adventure to play on.

Steel plates underneath where the bases for the basesball configuration were, those spots would give a good 5 in's. The endzone by the home locker rooms had the James Loften memorial ridge which tripped countless recievers, he just ate it worse than any we had seen. My friend tore ligaments in one ankle and broke the other on one play there and I thought my knee was gone when i stepped on one of those steel plates and ate it.

and the seams were pretty big.
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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2007, 06:18:17 PM »
We just had our first day of school today.  We've got two boys with foot casts and crutches and one with a broken arm.  All from football; I'll have to dig out the details.
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