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Offline KG45

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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« on: August 28, 2007, 08:36:02 PM »
you can't get from the B-26, Ju-88, A-20/Boston or even the Mossie or the 110? other than a 75mm gun.
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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2007, 08:44:33 PM »
Nothing except it's service dates.

Apparently there was some need for an early war American medium bomber.

...and it looks cool.....
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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2007, 09:02:30 PM »
It is already on its way to becoming a hanger queen...
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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2007, 09:03:29 PM »
What does any plane offer that we don't already have? What does a Yak3 offer that you cant get from a spitfire? or a 109? or an la? That is kind of an immature question on your behalf.

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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2007, 09:14:54 PM »
next time i'll be sure to run my questions by you first to be sure it meets the required maturity quotient.
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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2007, 09:22:57 PM »
Meh, its like a 110 on crack, without the crack 0.o

It can laser other fighters out of the sky with its x8 .50's
Bombers can be torn apart from 1.5k

3k of bombs means if you pick 500's you can salvo 2 per load, and have a chance to bomb 3 gv's
Not to mention if you have the 75mm version, you can simply lob rounds into the field.

HAH, straff a enemy runway with it, and watch the kill count grow.

Very few planes can unleash the firepower the b25 can with just one pass.
That 75mm is REALY great when straffing planes trying to take off, never mind the bombers :P

Have fun, it is a great capability.
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Re: so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2007, 09:25:15 PM »
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you can't get from the B-26, Ju-88, A-20/Boston or even the Mossie or the 110? other than a 75mm gun.



You can't just dismiss the 75mm cannon. It sets the B-25H apart from everything else.

You can haul 3k in bombs. You can kill bomber formations at 1,500 yards. You can shred anything that winds up in front of you with 8, concentrated heavy machine guns. B-25s fly circles around the B-26, actually capable of giving some fighters a rough time, as the Mitchells have a fairly good turn rate initially. You can knock lightly armored vehicles at very long range, outside the range of their defensive fire. You can kill most tanks with a single hit at close range. It's reasonable to kill a dozen enemy vehicles without a reload.

Ju-88s carry a healthy bomb load, but are basically death traps. The Boston can maneuver quite well below 250 mph, but its four rifle caliber guns are extremely weak, and the bomb load is relatively small. A formation of B-26s can put out some deadly defensive fire, but it handles poorly and is rather slow up above 12k. Only the A-20 proves to be a match for the B-25s, being faster and more maneuverable. However, it's limited to 500 lb bombs and has far less offensive and defensive firepower as well as less endurance.

Prior to being released, I stated that the B-25H may end up as the main GV killer in the plane-set. It appears that it is well on its way to that status.

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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2007, 09:26:12 PM »
It offers a filled slot in the well-known and important aircraft used in WW2 category.

There are a lot of airplanes left that need to be introduced into AH to complete that list.

We fill them one or two at a time.

Too bad HTC doesn't have 500 workers toiling day in and day out to get all the major aircraft of WW2 into the game. Of course, if they did, it'd probably be $300/month to play.......
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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2007, 11:17:16 PM »
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It offers a filled slot in the well-known and important aircraft used in WW2 category.

There are a lot of airplanes left that need to be introduced into AH to complete that list.

We fill them one or two at a time.

Too bad HTC doesn't have 500 workers toiling day in and day out to get all the major aircraft of WW2 into the game. Of course, if they did, it'd probably be $300/month to play.......


What did your Dad think of it Toad? Been curious about that and havn't seen a post about it.

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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2007, 11:26:11 PM »
The B-25H is the only ship in the game that can not only single-handedly GUN DOWN a hangar, (in a manner that's actually practical) but can do it to MULTIPLES without a reload. One 25H can, in theory, knock out fighters at a small airfield, or vehicles at a vehicle base. Yes, you can say the same about a formation of B-24s or Lancs, which can bomb from high altitude with accuracy and are loaded with defensive guns plus the benefit of formations, but what do you do when ordinance is down at all the surrounding fields and you can't spawn in tanks?

The B-25C may not get much use outside the Early War or scenarios, but the H is going to be FAR from a hangar queen, especially if we get HVARs, torpedoes and the wing pylons.

I predict bomber hangars are going to become a primary target.
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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2007, 12:52:54 AM »
I think it'll certainly affect the way base attacks are done. Normally you porke the ord at fields to prevent your GV's from getting egged. The 25h changes all that since you can still up one light and inflict significant casualties.

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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2007, 02:53:58 AM »
It made Toad happy.

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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2007, 08:37:10 AM »
I must say I would never allow a B-25 to get within 1.5 of my bombers. I wouldnt allow it to get 2k. Thats why I climb high within my radar coverage. I jumped 3 24s in a H with about 3,000' on them. The altitude I had on them gave me the energy to turn around and then chase them down, at which time I leisurely shot them down with cannon while friendly fighters gave me plenty of air to hang back in their "6".

                  Since then Ive been living in fear of getting caught by an H in my climb. Strange I haven't flown the C yet with drone cause I normally take out 26s for that kind of mission, or JUs. I think the H might only fill a niche but its going to be an interesting niche.

 
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
Meh, its like a 110 on crack, without the crack 0.o

It can laser other fighters out of the sky with its x8 .50's
Bombers can be torn apart from 1.5k

3k of bombs means if you pick 500's you can salvo 2 per load, and have a chance to bomb 3 gv's
Not to mention if you have the 75mm version, you can simply lob rounds into the field.

HAH, straff a enemy runway with it, and watch the kill count grow.

Very few planes can unleash the firepower the b25 can with just one pass.
That 75mm is REALY great when straffing planes trying to take off, never mind the bombers :P

Have fun, it is a great capability.
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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2007, 08:50:29 AM »
Has anyone worked out what the 75's shot is equivalent to in lbs of bombs?

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so, what does the B-25 offer that
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2007, 09:21:43 AM »
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What did your Dad think of it Toad? Been curious about that and havn't seen a post about it.

Mark


Right when all the announcement was going on my Mom was diagnosed with breast cancer.

Quitch took a back seat to the medical hoopla.

She's had the surgery and the results were as good as you can hope for; tumor out and lymph nodes clear of cancer. So she'll start radiation soon and that should be that.

Now that the family is getting clear of that situation, I expect to sit down with him and really see what he thinks.

He was happy HTC added it but other events clearly overshadowed it.
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