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Offline dedalos

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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2007, 03:28:29 PM »
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dedalos: Krusty is correct, in a tail chase , there is no way you can be behind the other guy and cause a collision on his front end. With 0 lag you would have to be inside him, with lag > 0 you have to be ahead of him. And I do not believe there is anyway to have lag < 0.


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Offline SPARKY8400

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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2007, 02:46:42 PM »
i intentionally ramed a bomber when i ran out of ammo we both went down but i didnt get the kill
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2007, 12:52:50 PM »
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Originally posted by hitech
dedalos: Krusty is correct, in a tail chase , there is no way you can be behind the other guy and cause a collision on his front end. With 0 lag you would have to be inside him, with lag > 0 you have to be ahead of him. And I do not believe there is anyway to have lag < 0.


HiTech


I have rammed a bomber from dead 6 when I ran out of ammo and wanted to save a carrier. I got both the orange "you have collided" and the white "blah has collided with you" messages, and we both went down. I had about 150 mph speed advantage if that makes a difference. Maybe after the collision happened on my front end my carcass caught up to him on his front end.
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Offline Tiger

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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2007, 03:51:49 PM »
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I have rammed a bomber from dead 6 when I ran out of ammo and wanted to save a carrier. I got both the orange "you have collided" and the white "blah has collided with you" messages, and we both went down. I had about 150 mph speed advantage if that makes a difference. Maybe after the collision happened on my front end my carcass caught up to him on his front end.


Most probably
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Offline mtnman

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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2007, 04:42:11 PM »
A while back Saber and I tried to land an F4U on top of a B24 in flight (piggy-back).  

Being "oh-so-careful" and matching our airspeeds as closely as possible (which would appear to minimize lag effects- since they're a factor of time, greater speed differential should increase the distance between the perceived location of the other plane and his "actual" location) we found that it was impossible.  

The plane in back (F4U) always got a collision and died.  The B24 never did.  From the F4U, it would appear that your gear was centered over the B24's wing (we were hoping to get a prop-strike, and drop the F4U gear over the leading edge of the B24's wing, leaving us "stuck" piggy-back).  As soon as any contact was made from the F4U's perspective bad things happened.

From the B24's view, the F4U would break up and fall when the F4U was still a bit behind the horizontal stabilizer of the bomber.  No contact between the two was ever apparant from the B24's view, so the B24 never took any damage.

This just supports the previously stated cause / effect of how the ram model works.  It also shows that it is "fair" from both perspectives.

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Offline Rich46yo

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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2007, 04:46:45 PM »
I think intentionally ramming is poor sportsmanship. Either out fly someone or get out flown. Who cares if bombers get thru to a carrier? Its a cartoon war!
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Offline Gryffin

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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2007, 06:31:18 PM »
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I think intentionally ramming is poor sportsmanship. Either out fly someone or get out flown. Who cares if bombers get thru to a carrier? Its a cartoon war!


Almost every map we have has the airfields too far apart IMHO. As a result, sometimes the most enjoyable fights happen when a carrier is close to an enemy base. Sportsmanship has nothing to do with it.
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2007, 10:03:34 PM »
Intentional ramming hurts one person, the rammer.

The odds of actually being able to hurt someone else without you taking damage are astronaumical.
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Offline Apers

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Re: Intentional Ramming
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2007, 11:08:29 PM »
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I know the way collisions are coded in this game is kinda odd.  Is it possible to intentionally ram someone to knock them outta the sky?

I just ask because one of my bombers was rammed the other night.  Of course no damage was done to said person and he attempted to roll over through the formation again.


I do it all the time.

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Offline 2020

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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2007, 12:46:59 AM »
Are you the P40 or the other one?
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Offline Apers

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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2007, 01:55:15 AM »
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Are you the P40 or the other one?


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That's a Spitfire.



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I'm the Yak.
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Re: Re: Intentional Ramming
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2007, 06:15:34 AM »
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I do it all the time.



Unless your opponent accepts the ho in your screen shot. You'll only damage yourself. Here's why.vvvvvvvv

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Slappy, it's my personal windmill.:D

Tangle's external from his front end the moment of impact.





Same basic angle external, tangle's view from my front end moment of impact.




How would you feel taking damage looking at your film and seeing tangles front end view, hmmmmmm?


I know I'd be pretty POed.

Bronk

Edit: This also works nicely for the "none should take damage" people.

Yea I should be able to put the nose of my ac through another.:furious :furious :furious :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


If I see you going for a ho I'll most likely dive under. I gotten many a "xxx has collided with you." in game avoiding the ho like that.
 But you just keep on trying to ram.:rolleyes:

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Offline Apers

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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2007, 06:24:39 PM »
The whole event.



you'll notice I clipped his wing off and he shot my tailplane off.
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Offline Bronk

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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2007, 06:57:02 PM »
Like i said he accepted the ho and ran into you also.
You take damage when you run into someone.
you can't be this simple.


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Offline Apers

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« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2007, 10:21:59 AM »
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Like i said he accepted the ho and ran into you also.



Well if we agree why are we arguing?
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