Intentional Ramming

[Tiger]

I know the way collisions are coded in this game is kinda odd.  Is it possible to intentionally ram someone to knock them outta the sky?

I just ask because one of my bombers was rammed the other night.  Of course no damage was done to said person and he attempted to roll over through the formation again.

[Krusty]

It's nearly impossible unless you HO. The truth is you never know where the enemy "really is" so you can't intentionally ram 'em. You can try to guess, but really, it was an accident. HE probably didn't ram you on his end, if he took no damage.

I've done that before, where I make a close call (I don't ram, but it was close) and due to lag my lag position and the bombers' on their end passed through each other. I don't take damage, but the bomber might (hard to tell sometimes). On my end I didn't intend to ram, and didn't try to, but on the other end I did.

So, no, there's no real way to "intentionally ram" somebody. Just too hard to predict when/where to do it.

[hammer]

If the individual knew his own variance and your variance, it is theoretically possible to know how close he could get to you to cause you to have a collision while avoiding one himself. However, since the distance counter is in increments of 200yds, it would still be nearly impossible to get it right.

As always, what happened is a collision (appearing to you as a ram) occurred on your front end while the planes missed each other on your opponent's front end. To him, it appeared that he made a successful pass.

Here is an explanation of what happened.

Regards,

Hammer

[dedalos]

It is possible.  You can try it but you may end up being the one going down.  In case of buffs it may be a little easer since they fly straight.  You can try crossing in front of his nose as close as you can and hope that in his FE he is further ahead than where you see him and force the collision.

Now that I think about it, you can do that with his tail too.  Get in formation and get as close as you can.

Not as easy as it sounds though.  The guns will eat you alive before you get anywhere near the buffs any way and if you try at high speed you maybe the one paying the price.

[Krusty]

Doesn't work with the tail. You will always see him AFTER he's already left his current position. You try it on his tail, you'll ram but he won't (his FE will already have moved forward, and your position will lag on his end, you'll just fall out of the sky on his view).

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Tiger
I know the way collisions are coded in this game is kinda odd.  Is it possible to intentionally ram someone to knock them outta the sky?

I just ask because one of my bombers was rammed the other night.  Of course no damage was done to said person and he attempted to roll over through the formation again.

I don't think the person intentionally tried to ram you.  There is an issue with shooting down bomber formations.  If you shoot down the manned bomber and the pilot jumps to a drone, that drone will warp into formation with the remaining drone.  If you're the attacking fighter, sometimes the drone warps right into your flight path without anything you can do to avoid it.


ack-ack

[evenhaim]

Originally posted by Krusty
Doesn't work with the tail. You will always see him AFTER he's already left his current position. You try it on his tail, you'll ram but he won't (his FE will already have moved forward, and your position will lag on his end, you'll just fall out of the sky on his view).

then how come n7 rammed me like 10 times literally in 1 hour every sortie he rammed me trying to bnz me and all 10 times i deid and he got away unharmed?

[E25280]

Originally posted by evenhaim
then how come n7 rammed me like 10 times literally in 1 hour every sortie he rammed me trying to bnz me and all 10 times i deid and he got away unharmed?

Bad luck.

Get out of his way, and the problem is solved.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by evenhaim
then how come n7 rammed me like 10 times literally in 1 hour every sortie he rammed me trying to bnz me and all 10 times i deid and he got away unharmed?

Film?????


Bronk

[Latrobe]

Twice I've had accidental air collisions. The first one I can barley remember, but just the other night I was rtb in my spit and saw a friendly was in trouble. There was a 109K4 on his six, and they were in a turn fight. I went in to shoot the 109 and missed, so I looped around, came level, and lost sight of the 109 for a second. I looked right and saw a glimps of him as he flew in front of me and head-on. It was pretty funny, I flew straight and level, and he turned and somehow we collided:lol  . I just had to laugh.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by Krusty
Doesn't work with the tail. You will always see him AFTER he's already left his current position. You try it on his tail, you'll ram but he won't (his FE will already have moved forward, and your position will lag on his end, you'll just fall out of the sky on his view).

Depends on lag.  In this case the question is not where he is on your FE, but where you are in his

[hitech]

dedalos: Krusty is correct, in a tail chase , there is no way you can be behind the other guy and cause a collision on his front end. With 0 lag you would have to be inside him, with lag > 0 you have to be ahead of him. And I do not believe there is anyway to have lag < 0.


HiTech

[evenhaim]

guys considering the fv wasnt working when it happend.... but ask agent360 platano etc... all of them witnessed this

[Snubby]

I rammed a B24 in my hellcat on purpose the other day..

was smoking and engine fixing to die and had no ammo and was trying to ditch..

then comes this smoking mass of tardishness .. 3 24s all smoking because they just flew over a Vbase at prolly 3K... im about 5k out and they are passing out to my right, im at full flaps and gear at 1000 getting ready to try and ditch.. and heeere they come, I wasn't about to give this guy a easy kill so up goes gear, flaps, and I shot straight at him, dove under his HO and went straight into the nose of the lead plane..  all kinds of bad noises... but yet i was still flying "you shot down soinso" I managed to ditch after that before he could swing around, somebody still got a "kill" on me but it wasn't the bomber so I wasn't upset.

[Rich46yo]

I got rammed HO by a 262 once. How the game figured out a 260 mph Buff, with driver in gunners seat, can ram a 262 going 500+ mph is beyond me. It was an accident so who cares. Nobody is going to intentionaly ram a 262 into a B-17.