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Offline sethipus

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« on: August 30, 2007, 03:20:30 PM »
They're the same ENY value, and both have a version that has 2x13mm machine guns and 1x30mm tater gun.  So armament is comparable.

Does anyone know what the substantive differences are between the G-14 and the K-4?  And in terms of performance in AH?
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Offline Motherland

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2007, 03:21:54 PM »
The K4 is very fast and climbs better. The G14 turns slightly better.
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Offline JimBeam

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2007, 03:33:57 PM »
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The K4 is very fast and climbs better. The G14 turns slightly better.


what he said and g14 has different gun packs.
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Offline BigPlay

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2007, 03:42:27 PM »
K model was designed for bomber interception . It has a pressurized cockpit and has better high alt performance, kinda like the FW190 high alt version the TA152.  The G models were funny, the G10 came after the G14
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Offline JimBeam

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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2007, 04:22:33 PM »
wasnt the g10 the fastest of the 109s?
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2007, 04:23:09 PM »
The K-4 has a better engine that's also geared for higher alt work (it's way better at 25k than the G14 is!) but did not have as many weapons options as the G-14 did. The G-14 was fairly close to the K-4 under 16k, but a bit slower (this means it also climbed a little slower, and accelerated a little slower) -- but it still is close to the K-4.


Take the K-4 for speed and climb. Take the G14 for weapons options and turn rate. That being said, you can still turn with the K-4 and you can still climb and run with the G14. One's just better suited than the other.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2007, 04:34:38 PM »
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wasnt the g10 the fastest of the 109s?

The G10 was the fastest Gustave.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2007, 06:56:14 PM »
Bf109K was made to simplify the logistics of the Bf109 series.
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Offline MiloMorai

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2007, 07:49:40 PM »
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The K-4 has a better engine that's also geared for higher alt work (it's way better at 25k than the G14 is!) but did not have as many weapons options as the G-14 did. The G-14 was fairly close to the K-4 under 16k, but a bit slower (this means it also climbed a little slower, and accelerated a little slower) -- but it still is close to the K-4.

What is the FTH of each?
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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2007, 02:17:56 AM »
G14 has class, the K4 is a german runstang :D
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2007, 07:47:42 AM »
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What is the FTH of each?





FTH of versions we have in game:

109k-4    ~22000ft
109g-14  ~16000ft


At WEP k-4 is 10-20mph from 0-16k then 40-50mph faster at higher alts. Climb at WEP is similar for both up to 16k, and above that the k climbs better. Without WEP the differences are more pronounced and the g-14 is no better than a 1943 109g-6, but with WEP it's very capable at low to medium altittudes.

http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=109g14&p2=109k4
« Last Edit: August 31, 2007, 08:49:55 AM by TUXC »
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2007, 08:35:09 AM »
Thanks, tux, you beat me to posting that link :D

Interestingly enough, the G-14 beats the K-4 for climb below 5k. Just barely, but still interesting to note.
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Offline Charge

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2007, 04:09:43 AM »
"K model was designed for bomber interception."

Yes, just like the 190A8... ;)

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2007, 08:57:47 AM »
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wasnt the g10 the fastest of the 109s?


IIRC it was roughly 20 mph slower than the K4
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2007, 12:02:38 AM »
"It has a pressurized cockpit"

Also, like the 190 A-8 :D
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