Author Topic: Man Arrested by Circuit City....is Chairboy still posting? (Read 1930 times)

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #45 on:** September 05, 2007, 03:25:50 PM »

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Originally posted by DoctorYO
note this section of Ohio law 2921.29

He wasn't charged with 2921.29, he was charged with 525.07: Obstructing Official Business

Engine · « **Reply #46 on:** September 05, 2007, 03:45:55 PM »

For refusing to show ID, he gets charged with the silly bogus catch-all "Cop Feels Like Arresting You" law... that's the most disturbing part here. Not the receipt check, but the attempted Papers Please

DoctorYO · « **Reply #47 on:** September 05, 2007, 04:02:28 PM »

http://www.brooklynohio.gov/

(a) No person, without privilege to do so and with purpose to prevent, obstruct or delay the performance by a public official of any authorized act within the public official's official capacity, shall do any act that hampers or impedes a public official in the performance of the public official's lawful duties.

NOTE is says LAWFUL duties... thats where 2921.29 is paramount

(b) Whoever violates this section is guilty of obstructing official business. Except as otherwise provided in this subsection (b), obstructing official business is a misdemeanor of the second degree. If a violation of this section creates a risk of physical harm to any person, obstructing official business is a felony and shall be prosecuted under appropriate State law.

I see no violations here... Officer runs the name gets the information he needs... now if he gave a false name or refused to give his name then bingo this applies.

Officer is really digging here.... Show me anywhere where this law applies...

edit: after further review of their ordinances i would file a complaint with the city in regards to this, and carbon copy to the AG of Ohio.

Its rather ironic the AO should get hit with this when this gets settled.

525.13 INTERFERING WITH CIVIL RIGHTS.



(a) No public servant, under color of his office, employment or authority, shall knowingly deprive, or conspire or attempt to deprive any person of a constitutional or statutory right.





(b) Whoever violates this section is guilty of interfering with civil rights, a misdemeanor of the first degree.




(ORC 2921.45)

DoctorYo

Xargos · « **Reply #48 on:** September 05, 2007, 04:28:24 PM »

Doctor of Law...love it.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #49 on:** September 05, 2007, 05:12:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Mickey1992
He wasn't charged with 2921.29, he was charged with 525.07: Obstructing Official Business

Maybe so, but the arrest was in clear violation of 2921.29. The man wasn't in violation of it, the officer was.

Xargos · « **Reply #50 on:** September 05, 2007, 05:16:32 PM »

You know Laser, I have yet to figure you out.

LePaul · « **Reply #51 on:** September 05, 2007, 06:10:45 PM »

What a mess

Just chiming in on stores and privacy...I know at Sears, women are not allowed to bring hand bags to work. They can only use a clear plastic purse provided by the company. While most hated this policy, Sears was quick to point out 80% of its shrinkage (theft) comes from inside.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #52 on:** September 05, 2007, 06:14:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Xargos
You know Laser, I have yet to figure you out.

I'm not that complicated. I'm an objecto-anarchist. Basically meaning that I don't believe in government, but I believe in business. Where as I believe that government is the ultimate evil entity in the world, Business is the ultimate good.

2bighorn · « **Reply #53 on:** September 05, 2007, 06:26:44 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I'm an objecto-anarchist. Basically meaning that I don't believe in government, but I believe in business. Where as I believe that government is the ultimate evil entity in the world...

Don't tell, or Cav may report you...

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #54 on:** September 05, 2007, 06:29:08 PM »

on exiting SAMS club. The last time I was there I went through the ritual of the receipt checker.

I asked her point blank.

"Do you people really check to make sure only the things lited on the receipt are there. Or do you just glance over, go through the motions and just wave everyone on?"

She gave me a knowing smirk and a "shhh"
To which I said.
"Thats what I figured. To be honest. I wouldnt either"

We both laughed and I went on my merry way.

Interesting thread.

Its comical how stores like CC and Bestbuy have these receipt checkers at the door when they are in clear view of the register and can plainly see the customer paying for their goods.
Ever notice how they only stop the people comming from the register and not the ones who didnt buy anything and just walk out?

Reminds me of a true story albeit a bit off topic of what an old buddy of mine did a LONG time ago.

Some of the old farts here might remember a store named "Two Guys"
And for a while they too had receipt checkers just like they have at SAMS, Best Buy. And Circuit City... Just past the register.

Well one night my buddy, I'll call him "Mark" cause thats his name.
And the last I heard he was in jail anyway so it really doesnt matter.

Now Mark always had more balls then brains and that night was no exception.
Anyway he comes along for a ride to the "Two Guys" store with my mother and myself. And suddenly he decides he needs a new set of car speakers for his car.
My mother had finished shopping and decided to wait outside in the car.

So we go over to the care stereo section and he decides to get a pair of Jensen TriAxles.

So we start heading for what I figure is the cashier.
Cept he doesnt go to the cashier but past the casheir.
Im like "Did you forget something? Where the hell are you going?"
He doesnt say a word but just keeps going.

Im about chitting my pants And I quickly seperatd myself from him when I realise what hes about to do. And sure enough he walks right past the receipt checkers and out the door.
Like it was his god given right to do so!

And Im about to start sweating bullets as I walk out also.

We get out to the car And Im chewing him out.
When my mother finds out what Im yelling at him about we are already out of the parking lot and on the way home. She almost has a heart attack.

Mark was/is nuts though. For such a short man he had the biggeest set of brass balls of anyone I ever met.

Anyway. To get back on topic
It makes me wonder who it is the stores dont trust. The customer. or the cashiers trying ot slip their friends something for nothing.
Cause the receipt checkers sure as hell dont pay any nevermind to the other people exiting the stores who havent bought anything

C(Sea)Bass · « **Reply #55 on:** September 05, 2007, 06:58:06 PM »

Must just be a regional thing with the recipt checkers. None of the Best Buy's, Circuit City's, etc... have them in my area. BJ's does, but the way that store is setup you dont have to go anywhere near the registers to leave.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #56 on:** September 05, 2007, 11:04:58 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I'm not that complicated. I'm an objecto-anarchist. Basically meaning that I don't believe in government, but I believe in business. Where as I believe that government is the ultimate evil entity in the world, Business is the ultimate good.

How can you believe that, "government is the ultimate evil entity in the world" and also say, "I don't believe in government."

I think you are not a objecto-anarchist, but instead you are an oxymoronic-anarchist.

moose · « **Reply #57 on:** September 06, 2007, 01:47:40 AM »

felt i should chime in here.

as an ex loss prevention employee of best buy i can tell you that what happened in this case would have gotten both the LP associate and the manager fired from my store. under no circumstances can a employee try and physically detain you. the receipt checking is simply voluntary. even when we caught shoplifters we had no right to touch them.. they just didn't know they could run out without us stopping them. the idea behind such rules was that if in a situation like the one here, the legal costs to fight a lawsuit would far exceed the costs of the product. thats right - you could walk into your local best buy, grab an lcd tv off the shelf, and walk right out the door with it.. and you could never be stopped.

i'm sure circuit has the same policy too. those store employees are all sorts of screwed.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #58 on:** September 06, 2007, 01:07:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
How can you believe that, "government is the ultimate evil entity in the world" and also say, "I don't believe in government."

I think you are not a objecto-anarchist, but instead you are an oxymoronic-anarchist.

I forgot McLiteral, that I have to be very careful what I say around you, and have no possible second meanings.

While you took it to mean that I don't believe government doesn't exist, what it actually meant is that I don't believe it should exist.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #59 on:** September 06, 2007, 02:20:50 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I forgot McLiteral, that I have to be very careful what I say around you, and have no possible second meanings.

While you took it to mean that I don't believe government doesn't exist, what it actually meant is that I don't believe it should exist.

don't believe government doesn't... means you do believe government does...

That's confusing, and I don't believe you didn't get what it was I didn't believe that you believed... or not...