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« on: September 05, 2007, 08:31:14 PM »
this is bigbobCH, got a qwick question, i got a report and im tryin to find out what the first plane was used in combat was?? any know?
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2007, 08:49:28 PM »
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this is bigbobCH, got a qwick question, i got a report and im tryin to find out what the first plane was used in combat was?? any know?



10-22-1911: (Italo-Turkish war)
An Italian "Etrich Taube" (designed by the Austrian Ingo Etrich) taking off from Tripoli for a recon mission attacked Turkish troops with 2kg bombs.

If you try to look up that plane: You can more often find it under "Rumpler Taube". That was the version build under licence by the Rumpler in Germany.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2007, 09:34:35 PM »
you'll never learn if you don't even try to study up on something yourself a bit ;)
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2007, 09:57:49 PM »
lol, i looked on internet for over 4 hours and found notin thats y
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 09:59:49 PM »
Didn't guys used to fire pistols at each other in planes?

I think that was before they started dropping bombs.

That would also be considered combat.

Wouldn't it?



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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2007, 10:05:21 PM »
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Didn't guys used to fire pistols at each other in planes?

I think that was before they started dropping bombs.

 


Nope. Plane vs plane combat occured much later.
At that time only very few countries had even a handful planes in service at all, and there were no major wars between any of them prior to WWI.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2007, 10:05:24 PM »
yea... but i ment real combat not pistols, like bombs machine guns so on, ty for the answer by the way
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2007, 10:09:50 PM »
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yea... but i ment real combat not pistols, like bombs machine guns so on, ty for the answer by the way



err.. you didnt even read my first answer???

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(...) attacked Turkish troops with 2kg bombs.
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2007, 10:11:43 PM »
wat u mean?
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2007, 10:13:18 PM »
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wat u mean?


See above.
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2007, 10:16:37 PM »
I hate it when you,re right.

You know that don,'t you?

But I,m not sure how much I would trust Wikpedia.

I answered off the cuff, figuring the recon guys had to defend themselves from other recon guys.

And I thought that planes were used as recon before they were used as weapons.

Planes were'nt thought of as weapons until much later.

That was my train of thought.



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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2007, 10:26:47 PM »
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I hate it when you,re right.

You know that don,'t you?

But I,m not sure how much I would trust Wikpedia.

I answered off the cuff, figuring the recon guys had to defend themselves from other recon guys.

And I thought that planes were used as recon before they were used as weapons.

Planes were'nt thought of as weapons until much later.

That was my train of thought.



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You are basically on the right track.

The first military use of planes was recon. Not only because there were not any tactics ot strategy for aerial warfare devised, but also because of the severe technical limitations of pre-WWI airplanes.
Remember, the first channel crossing was made only in 1909, in a plane with merely 26HP...

The low numbers of airplanes in use and the absence of any wars between the major powers using them simply prevented any air combat. The first military use of planes was the Italo-Turkish war i posted about, followed by the Balkan war of 1912.
(BTW, the concept dropping bombs from the air was nothing new at that time, there have been  baloons and airships before planes.)

Only with the beginning of WWI this problem surfaced, the wish for denying enemy recon sorties lead to armed planes - first handguns, then rifles and a whole assortment of bizarre ideas, until the machinegun armament was universally accepted.
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2007, 10:36:52 PM »
I sit corrected!

Thanks for the info.

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2007, 10:42:59 PM »
Atlantis was the first society to use Flight and Air to Air combat.  


Really, look it up!



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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2007, 11:50:09 PM »
Is this report going to be in the English language, or what you are using here?

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