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Offline yanksfan

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« Reply #90 on: September 09, 2007, 06:59:12 PM »
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Nutzoid, please reread my post. "YOU" refers to anyone in the game not "you" personally. Also, 200 is an OPTION that you (anyone) can turn on and off and never listen to again. You (anyone) can can also SQUELCH  anyone you desire. Now...don't you (personally) understand these options can allow you (anyone) to turn off and never have to listen again (to what you (anyone) might consider smack talk)?

You (anyone) and you (personally) actually only hear what you (anyone) wish to hear in this game. That choice is yours (anyones), not theirs (anyones).

Should you (anyone) and you (pesoanlly) desire to stop smack talking but tards merely say on 200, "sorry I gotta squelch you" then do it. If everyone does that everytime, guess what? People (tards) will begin to get the message.

What's most interesting to note, and any old vet knows this, in old DOS AW the community exerted pressure on undesirable tardiness (and I'm not saying "late") and it stopped. AOHell tried to become their own police department to handle tards which turned into a complete waste of time and energy. HTC has taking a slightly diffferent approach by having mods. The reason issue is it begins in your (anyones) and your (you personally) cockpit. Turn off 200, squelch the tards. It goes away when they have no audience to whine to. If you have kids you know the easiest way to get them in line is to ignore their whines. Why would you (anyone) think this is any different?

Remember you (anyone) and you (personally) allow it by listening to it then bring it here to WHINE and ask for ways to deal with it when you already have the power to deal witih it yourselves (everyone).

Have I made it a tad easier for you to grasp?

The easiest fix is to keep whines from guys like BatfinkV from expressing his annoyance with his girl friends (do you realy have one? :) annoynace of him playing a game is to have a permanent Personal Mute list that stays muted until you change your mind not for just that session. You want 200 for those folks who ain't tards? Mute those who are and all that you will ever hear on 200 are your "friends". If a new tard pipes up on 200 you mute him too. Pretty simple even for the tards to understand. It does away with a need for mods, sorry mods.

Disclaimer: Tard, in this text, can be considering anyone who wishes to disrupt game play with inane chatter designed to let them hear themselves be heard. Ya hea?

Understand?


I'm sorry, can you run thru that again:huh
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« Reply #91 on: September 09, 2007, 07:04:36 PM »
Nope cause if I go TOOOOOOOOOOO SLOOOWWWW you will lose your concentration completely. :)

Just a take a lil more ritalin so you can slow down long enough to read it all the through one time and you will get it.

Confused? :lol

By formatting it that way everyone (you plural) has to slow down to grasp what was actually written. It's called diffusin by confusion.

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« Reply #92 on: September 09, 2007, 07:26:04 PM »
'you' (plural) is more effectively pronounced or typed 'one', in the queens english.

hope this helps.
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« Reply #93 on: September 09, 2007, 07:29:12 PM »
I'm not a queen...no other comment is required from me on your reply. :)

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« Reply #94 on: September 09, 2007, 08:00:27 PM »
far be it from me to be the gramma...er....grammer.....gr ammar?......police.

just thought it could save your keyboard some of the hectic work load.
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« Reply #95 on: September 09, 2007, 08:10:07 PM »
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Nope cause if I go TOOOOOOOOOOO SLOOOWWWW you will lose your concentration completely. :)

Just a take a lil more ritalin so you can slow down long enough to read it all the through one time and you will get it.

Confused? :lol

By formatting it that way everyone (you plural) has to slow down to grasp what was actually written. It's called diffusin by confusion.


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« Reply #96 on: September 09, 2007, 08:22:09 PM »
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far be it from me to be the gramma...er....grammer.....gr ammar?......police.

just thought it could save your keyboard some of the hectic work load.


Actually I just woke up a lil while ago. Durn mids~! I have the luxury of sitting in my recliner with my 17" Apple laptop so typing isn't an issue. For the record my typing specifically maintained the "you" which included the you (plural) as a joke. :)

Try not readin too much into the actual diction but the intent that was expressed. :)

If you noticecd Yanksfan was having fun with it :).

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« Reply #97 on: September 09, 2007, 09:38:37 PM »
Great post Vudak....

I think there is a fundamental underlying issue here...and that is the changing definition of "success". When I started success was measured strictly in "pelts". Now a pelt was a kill gained thru a fair match up. This doesn't mean a duel or even an equal start. It meant me in my plane and the other guy in his ride of choice.

You still see this manifested in most of the old guard and some of the new blood. If you ask a guy if he needs to gain alt or if your on his "6" and he just says come on in you know he's
old school". Not all pelts were equal...then or now. You cant pick a pelt you need to earn it....

Now if we look at current game play only the "result" counts, and in many squads....even good ones the focus has switched. I've flown with a few of the more highly regarded squads in the game...before only a couple of guys would drop on a single....now 1/2 the squad will. It's not my place to say if the new way is better or worse...but it certainly is less enjoyable for those like me who treasure a good 1 on 1...and believe that your conduct in that enviornment defines both your skill level and your character....

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« Reply #98 on: September 09, 2007, 09:45:24 PM »
hey ren, please note that 99% of my time here is intended with a smile and a laugh. i truly dont care how you (singular) or anyone types, was merely joining in the fun.

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Great post Vudak....

I think there is a fundamental underlying issue here...and that is the changing definition of "success". When I started success was measured strictly in "pelts". Now a pelt was a kill gained thru a fair match up. This doesn't mean a duel or even an equal start. It meant me in my plane and the other guy in his ride of choice.

You still see this manifested in most of the old guard and some of the new blood. If you ask a guy if he needs to gain alt or if your on his "6" and he just says come on in you know he's
old school". Not all pelts were equal...then or now. You cant pick a pelt you need to earn it....

Now if we look at current game play only the "result" counts, and in many squads....even good ones the focus has switched. I've flown with a few of the more highly regarded squads in the game...before only a couple of guys would drop on a single....now 1/2 the squad will. It's not my place to say if the new way is better or worse...but it certainly is less enjoyable for those like me who treasure a good 1 on 1...and believe that your conduct in that enviornment defines both your skill level and your character....


for the general populace of the MA you are right snap, but i still find the odd players here and there that know when they deserve the victory or not.

sadly though, you are correct, most of the players i encounter now, even the highly skilled ones, dont care how lame they fly, because you died and they lived and anything you have to say about it is a whine. then, if you are foolish enough to suggest the DA you will only compound they're feelings of contempt for you.

it is our own faults for letting the 'smack talking is cool, a kill is a kill is a kill and anyone who complains is a cry baby' attitude stick around for so long unchecked. what else did the new players have to follow? it is a case of toughen up or take a verbal beating so the new guys come and act like jerks because a few of the vets showed them that is 'how its done' in AH.

my happiness here is assured though, by the fact that for every score potato or jerk i find i almost always find someone worth meeting in the same sortie.

it is  case of 'the cup is half full or half empty'. personaly i like to think of the cup as 'half empty'. not because i'm pessimistic but because i drank the other half already and soon can go get a new one from the fridge.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2007, 09:54:59 PM by B@tfinkV »
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« Reply #99 on: September 09, 2007, 09:53:19 PM »
I'd agree with humble, Vudak........

only other thing I might add is , you might want to PERFECTLY spell, sentence & paragraph check  any future postings so they don't let others change direction of what you was trying to accomplish in asking if there was a good way if any to offer help to newer or less knowing players in the TA....

some might get a chance to pick apart your post and send it in an entirely different direction just from the specific wording you may use.......although most get the jest of what you was asking and explaining

the grammar police are every where these days.......
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #100 on: September 09, 2007, 10:23:53 PM »
i think you will notice TC, it is Ren who made personal attacks about my character, my life and my loving partner. i was joking about grammar.
Ren knows nothing and regularly shows everyone how dim he is.

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and you know what Ren, i was recently asked to take part in the 'Aces of Aces High' project, to which i take great compliment.

Infact, i turned down the offer becuase i feel i share myself enough here already and many others deserve it more.


now...i am beggining to think it would have been a good idea to do it and show you my misses and me, both looking young and beautifull and very happy. which you quite clearly are not, in real life.

you cast aspersions over me every chance you get, from the first time you met me here you attacked me. yet have you tried to get to know me? i think not. you are the worst kind of person Ren, you are conceited beyond words, your arrogance is ground breaking, your intelect is obviously less than you believe it is and your compreshension of other people is the worst i have ever seen.

do you just want to bully people? do you want me to write F/Y again in big letters so HTC can ban me? you want me to melt down?

i just dont get it.

the fact that you are a 'trainer' in this game baffles me. not only are you rude, stupid and arrogant you are a rubbish virtual fighter pilot.

have a nice day.
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« Reply #101 on: September 09, 2007, 10:46:26 PM »
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i think you will notice TC, it is Ren who made personal attacks about my character, my life and my loving partner. i was joking about grammar.
Ren knows nothing and regularly shows everyone how dim he is.

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and you know what Ren, i was recently asked to take part in the 'Aces of Aces High' project, to which i take great compliment.

Infact, i turned down the offer becuase i feel i share myself enough here already and many others deserve it more.


now...i am beggining to think it would have been a good idea to do it and show you my misses and me, both looking young and beautifull and very happy. which you quite clearly are not, in real life.

you cast aspersions over me every chance you get, from the first time you met me here you attacked me. yet have you tried to get to know me? i think not. you are the worst kind of person Ren, you are conceited beyond words, your arrogance is ground breaking, your intelect is obviously less than you believe it is and your compreshension of other people is the worst i have ever seen.

do you just want to bully people? do you want me to write F/Y again in big letters so HTC can ban me? you want me to melt down?

i just dont get it.

the fact that you are a 'trainer' in this game baffles me. not only are you rude, stupid and arrogant you are a rubbish virtual fighter pilot.

have a nice day.


That's nice :)

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« Reply #102 on: September 09, 2007, 11:44:07 PM »
i dont find it 'nice' in the slightest, and let me tell you now, if you continue to cast your wide assumptions over my personal life without my invitation i will take the matter up with hitechcreations. that is something i never wished to do here, but you are past the point of reasoning and well into your hole of pure ignorance.

and only a twonk like you would see a point in quoting from the post directly above your reply.......or is this your method to ensure i dont edit it, so you can be sure that HTC see what i wrote? lol for a 30+ year old you sure are childish.
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« Reply #103 on: September 10, 2007, 12:38:52 AM »
Um Im not english, so can you please define "twonk" for me? :confused:
(while I do not know what that word means, I am also trying to lighten the mood) :p

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« Reply #104 on: September 10, 2007, 01:01:37 AM »
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i think you will notice TC, it is Ren who made personal attacks about my character, my life and my loving partner. i was joking about grammar.
Ren knows nothing and regularly shows everyone how dim he is.
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and you know what Ren, i was recently asked to take part in the 'Aces of Aces High' project, to which i take great compliment.
Infact, i turned down the offer becuase i feel i share myself enough here already and many others deserve it more.
now...i am beggining to think it would have been a good idea to do it and show you my misses and me, both looking young and beautifull and very happy. which you quite clearly are not, in real life.
you cast aspersions over me every chance you get, from the first time you met me here you attacked me. yet have you tried to get to know me? i think not. you are the worst kind of person Ren, you are conceited beyond words, your arrogance is ground breaking, your intelect is obviously less than you believe it is and your compreshension of other people is the worst i have ever seen.
do you just want to bully people? do you want me to write F/Y again in big letters so HTC can ban me? you want me to melt down?
i just dont get it.
the fact that you are a 'trainer' in this game baffles me. not only are you rude, stupid and arrogant you are a rubbish virtual fighter pilot.
have a nice day.


You really want me to start over? Ok, then...
If you notice at the top of this reply, you tell TC you made a joke, Are you the only person in this game that is allowed to make a joke? I returned the favor and you take as an abolsute personal afront to you, your life, your character, to the point that you said F sumtim or other and say you go are gonna melt down?

Then you go on to say you have be asked to do the Aces of Aces High thingy but then say, naw you won't cause you share yourself in here? Then after all that you get so wound up that you just gotta do it after all? Which is it? :rofl You might be right! Let those more deserving get their 15 minutes of fame. I know I'm not but that's fine. :) "Sides, most of us old guys sure enjoy meeting other folks through the interviews. It's done very well.

Ok, let's move on...:). I'm arrogant, stupid, conceited beyond words? What else was there...oh yeah, rude, rubbish virtual fighter pilot. I kinda like that. It rings~! Also, I cast aspersions on you every chance I get? And, lastly, a trainer in the game that baffles you?

In answer to that...
I get up and take my lumps just like everyone else in the arena. I don't make movies and post them everyday about how good I did and everyone should watch just to see how great I am. I can think of at least one person who does that?  Can you? Moving on....I never whine about die'n nor do I get all excited and have to rant at the top of my virtual text on 200. Ever! If I get shot down cause I was stupid and say something like "Damn" cause I was stupid, my finger is not on vox. If my saying the guy I fought lost his fight and in my mind it's history and I'm already looking ahead to the next fight. If I die I take off again. I gather that is very arrogant and conceited.

Ok lessee, rubbish virtual fighter pilot....I can't remember that last time I ran across you in the MA and/or shot you down nor if you have ever shot me down so how would you begin to know how I fly? I also can't remember the last time I've ever noticed you flying in the MA and I really don't follow your exploits. If that makes me a rubbish virtual pilot I'd sure like to know how you decided that? :lol

Now, let's spend a minute on the trainer thingy. I've noticed you recently have been showing up in the TA again. You did it a few years back. It's nice to know that you care. Wait a minute...your not a trainer...have you ever been passed over? I mean you sure seem to be stready enough. Opps, wait...you are telling me you have a tendency to melt down. Are you gonna do that with some poor new guy? What about this PSAM thingy? Is that some sort of "hey look at me I'm trying to help? for the trainers benefit? I wonder if you even notice us trainers leave you alone to play with the other folks in there. Your doing your thing. Wait that can't be arrogance on my part, could it?

The trainers fo Aces High go into the TA day in and day out and help anyone and everyone that wants it. They don't care about your skill level, your walk of life, what you do in real life, the country you are from. That's not important. They listen and let you learn from the very outset of your gaming experience at AH2.  Trainers don't spend all day trying to show anyone how great they are. They just get up and help people learn the game. The day will never come that you can prove or justify that is not what I do. For now, you are not a trainer and whining is not the way to become one.

You're 24 years old. You still a kid to me. I'm probably a lot older than your Dad. Do you have aproblem with older folks or just someone who's not providing you plaudits on a daily bases? You  need to grow up and take what I've written on this topic for what it is, view of one person's take on what I consider a whine and my response to it. I like the author of this thread no less but I stated my POV. Nothing more.. I also offered a fix which requires nothng more than .squelching and staying off 200. I additionally suggested the need for possibly a permanent squelch for those who habitually abuse the text/vox system in the game.

If my having an opposing POV is arrogant, conceited, the worst kind of person, rude, stupid, dim, a lousy virt...opps wait, a rubbish virtual fighter pilot, did you mention short bus...then I'd have to say, I'm guilty as charged and that's nice. :)

You did mention "have I tried to get to know you?" Think about this and melt down if you must....a man's actions speaks volumes of his worth. If you can 't see that why would I want to get to know you better? In fact, while I've said Hi in the Ta I don't think you have ever responded in kind. That being the case I've ever interupted you from doing your thing.
I'm not sure what your issue is but you need to learn to get over it.

One last remark. If someone gets one my bad side for any reason. It lasts until I think of something else which is usually about a  minute. I hold no grudges. Somehow, I think you're not quite up to that level yet.

One thing I do have a long memery about and you're not part of it...If some dude keeps sneaking in to steal kills don't ever expect any kind of chk 6 calls or clearing your 6 in the MA. It's the only way I know how to stop them from doing it. Once they learn it's silly to do then as far as I'm concerned its a forgotten subject. There are more than enough people in the MA waiting to be shot down so you don't have to spend your time stealing kills. Alternatively if some buff is egging the field and I'm not stopping him by all means get in and grab the kill before he drops.

Now what was a discussion about vox has been hijacked and for that I appologize. As far as BatfinkV, do whatcha need ta do bud. :)