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Offline dtango

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« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2007, 08:23:46 PM »
Vudak:

Why are you posting such a long-winded whine?  Don't you have anything better to do?

BEFORE YOU RESPOND, I only ask those questions fallaciously to prove a point.  Those questions are no different than what you asked the other player on 200.

“Why did you run from a 1v1 when you were in a spitfire?”....I was just wondering how he expected to ever improve if he didn’t challenge himself?

They are the same because just like my questions, your questions are "loaded questions".  Loaded questions are questions that have a false or questionable presupposition, and they are "loaded" with that presumption.

The classic loaded question is "When did you stop beating your wife?".  If you ask a loaded question, you should expect an animated response.

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« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2007, 12:14:23 AM »
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hee hee NathBDP!  Boy that got me soo mad when he called me a lame skilless picker, but it was true, and that's why it got me stirred up so much.  


If you are getting your adrenlalin(enjoyment) by being sneaky and cowardly, then you will never stop doing what the spit did.  It's two different personality types.  One type, like VUDAK, actually found the real adrenalin to be the fight, and the other type, like Falconwng(he flies like the spit did in this story), continues to find the adrenalin in cowardly run/cherry/HO tactics!  I have film of Falconwng the other night in a horde trying to cherry me, he gets reversed so goes vert and tries a front quarter/HO, when he misses, he runs(in his la7 against my k-4) right up in under his overwhelming horde that was almost over my base.  As soon as I start reversing the 4-6 cons that jumped me, I see him turn around and go for the cherry(of course he misses again) and then gets super aggressive tryin to steal the kill from the others(now at least 8) that were trying to get me.  He still didn't get the kill on me.:aok  He's been playing since '96! LMAO ROFL:rofl :lol   What a waste of game time!  I have no problems calling people like him out as just plain cowardly game types!!!!  


Mark


your a pathetic individual with obvious issues (burp)...please get help. This game would be a much nicer place without you...and please post the film so others can judge that fight...my recall is an even furball off an enemy base...im sorry you die so easily when odds are even...:cool:

p.s. i dont pay 15 bucks to have a washed up actor force a bullying belittling persona on ch 200.  doing that is the epitome of true cowardice...
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« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2007, 12:32:20 AM »
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your a pathetic individual with obvious issues (burp)...please get help. This game would be a much nicer place without you...and please post the film so others can judge that fight...my recall is an even furball off an enemy base...im sorry you die so easily when odds are even...:cool:

p.s. i dont pay 15 bucks to have a washed up actor force a bullying belittling persona on ch 200.  doing that is the epitome of true cowardice...
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Bro, go sell your ankle humping to someone who hasn't experienced your lame arse game play.  I will post the film, or I should, but I don't think it will change your cowardice ways.  You are a pathetic run punk in game, and I will never have a problem pointing that out to anyone who joins our community.  Step up, Mike, you weenie boy!:aok You got nothing, but your la7 speed to save your no skill lameness!


 HO this statement dweeb, we've already fought and I ownt your lame arse in your own plane!  Please continue to recruit and train people in your likeness, without dweebs like you, me and my squad would have little to humor us when we hunt!!!!:aok
« Last Edit: September 08, 2007, 12:36:05 AM by SkyRock »

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« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2007, 12:55:38 AM »
Skyrock/Mark

you have done what we have all done at one time or the other and focused all your energies to mastering a tiny part of this game....im sorry you have no perspective or insight to understand that flying a pretend airplane is useless in the real world...and means even less to us who fly for fun...

you used a shade account to get me in the da late one night...i seem to remeber that once i understood your merge you died easily...if i had known it was you i would never have gone because you are a tool..and i dont waste time with such people...

so please keep telling yourself your great and then log off and return to the real world where people like you are OWNED by people like me in ALL aspects of life....

Once again you demonstrate what a pathetic person you are and i again recommend getting help...try this first line out for your shrink "I am a L33t cartoon fiter pilot who likes to bully folks under an assumed personae that is really not like me at all...":rofl :rofl :rofl  good grief man...read what people typed for "worst thing about the game" and realize its you!:lol :rolleyes: :lol  even your own squadmates typed it...hee-larious!!! and the sad part is you really don't get it:(


ask your sad self this question "why do i care  what falc or anyone flies or how they do it?"  its because YOU actually believe it means something...are you that big a flop in real life that you need to put false value on a game??? im beginning to believe acting may not be your only bad venture...

and please dont pm me asking me to call you on the phone...dude i dont like you...seriously...no act....i hope you quit the game soon...i think you are poison for the new players..but most of all you try to ruin other folks fun.  i found it humorous that you actually thought i would have kept your number from way back then...i could barely stand your arrogance then..and your actions over the last year have only intensified my feelings of disgust for you...

:t  off my ankle puppy! DISMISSED!
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« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2007, 03:30:50 AM »
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If you listened closely to a recent video bio, you'll hear that this is exactly the kind of feedback they got that drove them to learn better ACM.  It's not always trash talk for the sake of trash talk.  It does have the desired effect sometimes.


Yeah, Murdr, sometimes the trash talk may do the trick, but, unfortunately, I think most of the time it will only do harm to new people. One thing is to poke fun at people you know from a long time and you know will get it and answer in the right mood, one thing is just trash talking people who don't get along with you and you know will just start a flame war on 200....

I agree with Fugitive, who, btw, focused his post on what was the real point of Vudak's post.

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The whole point is, if the "vets" or the "trash talkers" toned it down a bit, maybe the new guys wouldn't pick up that attitude. And maybe if the new guys, or weak flyers didn't jump on the "defensive" with their attitudes they might find more people willing to spend that hour or two in the TA, or have someone tell them how they lost the fight, or just pass a pointer or two along.
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« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2007, 09:31:47 AM »
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Skyrock/Mark

you have done what we have all done at one time or the other and focused all your energies to mastering a tiny part of this game....im sorry you have no perspective or insight to understand that flying a pretend airplane is useless in the real world...and means even less to us who fly for fun...

you used a shade account to get me in the da late one night...i seem to remeber that once i understood your merge you died easily...if i had known it was you i would never have gone because you are a tool..and i dont waste time with such people...

so please keep telling yourself your great and then log off and return to the real world where people like you are OWNED by people like me in ALL aspects of life....

Once again you demonstrate what a pathetic person you are and i again recommend getting help...try this first line out for your shrink "I am a L33t cartoon fiter pilot who likes to bully folks under an assumed personae that is really not like me at all..."  good grief man...read what people typed for "worst thing about the game" and realize its you! even your own squadmates typed it...hee-larious!!! and the sad part is you really don't get it


ask your sad self this question "why do i care  what falc or anyone flies or how they do it?"  its because YOU actually believe it means something...are you that big a flop in real life that you need to put false value on a game??? im beginning to believe acting may not be your only bad venture...

and please dont pm me asking me to call you on the phone...dude i dont like you...seriously...no act....i hope you quit the game soon...i think you are poison for the new players..but most of all you try to ruin other folks fun.  i found it humorous that you actually thought i would have kept your number from way back then...i could barely stand your arrogance then..and your actions over the last year have only intensified my feelings of disgust for you...

 off my ankle puppy! DISMISSED!

 I didn't read any part of this that is true.  You are a jealous cowardly punk, and apparently a pathological liar as well.  You have never beaten me in the DA and you never will.  I do not PM you to call me, so why would you want the BBS folks to believe that?  Maybe my comment about you being an ankle humper is really spot on, I knew it was anyway.  Since the first time I bumped into you in this game, you have been playing the same weak way running and HOing in an la7(11 years running?rofl).  It is representative of you and how you would come on to the boards and post complete idiot lies like the ones in this post.  So if you can't take someone calling your weak arse out for what it is, then it is your problem, but making up fairytales isn't going to change it.  

PS the lie about the DA and your learning my merge..... :rofl You were disposed of very quickly and had no answer for any angles I pulled on you.  What a waste of a pathetic bag of puke, you are.:rolleyes:

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« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2007, 10:39:04 AM »
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I didn't read any part of this that is true.  You are a jealous cowardly punk, and apparently a pathological liar as well.  You have never beaten me in the DA and you never will.  I do not PM you to call me, so why would you want the BBS folks to believe that?  Maybe my comment about you being an ankle humper is really spot on, I knew it was anyway.  Since the first time I bumped into you in this game, you have been playing the same weak way running and HOing in an la7(11 years running?rofl).  It is representative of you and how you would come on to the boards and post complete idiot lies like the ones in this post.  So if you can't take someone calling your weak arse out for what it is, then it is your problem, but making up fairytales isn't going to change it.  

PS the lie about the DA and your learning my merge..... :rofl You were disposed of very quickly and had no answer for any angles I pulled on you.  What a waste of a pathetic bag of puke, you are.:rolleyes:


lmao...quit lying Mark...dude you are sooo pathetic...again post the film you described above to show us how you dont invent crap (lets see it thru sober eyes ok?)...and feel free to post the da films where you beat me in a la7 v la7....i only remember dueling in spits...

and please...you dont remember you trying to get me to call you the other night???  "dont you still have my number Mike..."  you are in so deep you cant see bottom dude...step away from the bottle...we were on squad ch cracking up about it..you even slipped and put it on ch 200 a few times so they knew what was going on...then you logged.

but again feel free to never reference or talk to me again....i have avoided commenting on you...even after that pathetic aces of aces high thing where you tried to justify being a total jerk..."woo-woo im a pretend actor and play local bars so that means im REALLY a nice person".,,lmao...watch Murdr's Aces of Aces High if you want to understand what people who truly want to help others learn do...and how humble they are about it.

Im sorry others have to read this crap but no more free passes for you to lie and bully others...if you are smart you'll stick to harrassing folks in arenas im not in...you are far to easy to expose because you are nothing to begin with...

Once again

Off my ankle puppy! DISMISSED...seriously loser buh-bye:rolleyes:
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« Reply #67 on: September 08, 2007, 10:44:56 AM »
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unfortunately, I think most of the time it will only do harm to new people.
 

Gian, many of the people who play this game are capable of understanding what trash talk is and what kind of value they should place it with.  You say that trash talk hurts new players:huh ........are new players lil bundles of dweeeb that we should comfort and wipe their arse for them  or make sure no bad wittle 200 germs get near them?  

 
I think if someone gets their fun ruined by reading text, then they have placed way too much importance on reading the text.  Now, I am speaking of the regular type of smack, such as dweeb, HOer, runner, gangtwit types of comments, not all of the smack I see on 200 is what I would consider within the parameters of the game.  I see peeps type things about peoples family and what sexual orientation they are and have seen ethnic and cultural slurs, this type of smack is not good in my opinion, but never did any of it ruin my gameplay.  I think many don't like trash talking because they don't like egotistical people, unfortunately ego's are a part of any competitive aspect of human interaction.  

I meet many people all the time who have been playing less than a 1/2 year, and they come to the DA and want to fight.  Generally, they chuckle about trash talk, or do not even take it seriously in the first place.  They want to learn how to be a good fighter, so they find the good fighters and try to get them to fight.  This is not uncommon.  Since I first started, there has always been trash talkers who were known for their 200 smack.  Some of these were really good stiks as well, some were just trash talkers.  The only way any trash talking ever affected me was to get me motivated to kick their arse.  I mean why would anyone take 200 online game smack to where it made their experience less enjoyable?  It is a tunable channel, if it is unbearable, then detune it.  If you can figure out how to type, then you can ask how to detune ch 200.  More than likely, if a newb asked that question, he gets the Alt F4 comment by some of those same people who say smack hurts new players, I find this to be hypocritical.  I always enjoyed the trash talk, it made things more entertaining.  It made me want to go find the people and kill them, of course, many of them kicked my arse, but it gave me something to do other than kill those mean old buildings and hangars.  Of course, as I have stated before, it was NathBDP calling me a lame no-skill cherry picker that got me motivated to learn to be a good fighter.  He was spot on of his assessment of my gameplay at that time.  
So, when I hear people talking about smack "hurting" new players, I have to wonder if we are not belittling the new player by categorizing he/she as a human who can't handle themselves in a social environment. :aok

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« Reply #68 on: September 08, 2007, 10:54:26 AM »
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lmao...quit lying Mark...dude you are sooo pathetic...again post the film you described above to show us how you dont invent crap (lets see it thru sober eyes ok?)...and feel free to post the da films where you beat me in a la7 v la7....i only remember dueling in spits...

and please...you dont remember you trying to get me to call you the other night???  "dont you still have my number Mike..."  you are in so deep you cant see bottom dude...step away from the bottle...we were on squad ch cracking up about it..you even slipped and put it on ch 200 a few times so they knew what was going on...then you logged.

but again feel free to never reference or talk to me again....i have avoided commenting on you...even after that pathetic aces of aces high thing where you tried to justify being a total jerk..."woo-woo im a pretend actor and play local bars so that means im REALLY a nice person".,,lmao...watch Murdr's Aces of Aces High if you want to understand what people who truly want to help others learn do...and how humble they are about it.

Im sorry others have to read this crap but no more free passes for you to lie and bully others...if you are smart you'll stick to harrassing folks in arenas im not in...you are far to easy to expose because you are nothing to begin with...

Once again

Off my ankle puppy! DISMISSED...seriously loser buh-bye:rolleyes:


LMAO, who's in too deep?  I called your game play out and you attack my personal life?    I am sorry that you can't discern real life from gameplay.  You are a joke of a player and obviously have some RL issues to deal with, I wish you luck with them.  
Back to game aspects.  You are an easy kill as well, 1 vs 1 you have nothing to bring to the table.  Very easy to dispose when you can't get away.  Hard to believe after 11 years of playing you still suck as bad as you do at fighting.  I don't have the films of us dueling, but we can make some more.  I would enjoy slapping an 11 year vet around the DA like a two-week newb!!  Of course you wont go, as you have stated your moral dilemma about being completely ownt and smacked around by a "jerk".  Too funny.  :rofl Weaklings like you are easy.:aok

PS  Read up on some psychology, you commonly refer to yourself as a group, or as if you are speaking for a group when you are speaking to me, "we were on sqd ch", or "they knew what was going on", or "and means even less to us".   You should have some knowlege of this type of behavoir, being that you are college educated.  Starting to make sense why you hide in your large squad and in hordes and keep newer players around you all the time.  :rofl
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« Reply #69 on: September 08, 2007, 11:00:03 AM »
Gianlupo, I wasn't really disagreeing with Fugi, just adding a counter point.  In fact I posted more, and then deleted it.  I even started to comment on what you brought up.

Which is there is quite a bit going on that newer players don't see the context of.  For one thing, there are quite a few around that have known each other and flown together years before AH was around.  We are friends, we mess with each other.  What we do amongst ourselves over open channels, can easily be misunderstood, whether we are either 100% messing around, or 50% messing around, and forget about it the next day. Point is that much is less serious than it may appear.   Also because of the mix of a very old community here, it means we have had all this time to make many friends.  

So you got this "Cheers". "everybody knows your name" thing going on, then you add to that, skill with the game, and many others not in that large circle of friends remember that player too.  So you end up with "the list" of those 133t players.  Thing is, those players got there by leaving an impression one individual at a time.  Not by annoying the **** out of everyone with self advertizing time on open channels.

Fugitive is correct in a way, not so much tone down, but a lot is in the presentation.  In fact you often don't even have to name names.  If they just encountered you, they know darn well who the comments are addressed to.  How they choose to react to it is there problem, but the message often boils down to "come on and play like a man, if you're smart enough to play like a wuss, then you have the potential to learn how to actually fight.  Use it".  It's a challenge to challenge yourself, generally.  That seems to get lost on many who try to emulate it for their own promotion, trolling, and bullying.

What I am not doing is advocating abusing other players.  In fact I am usually pretty quiet unless provoked, or getting a provoking reply from a general comment.  What I am saying is it is a part of the game, and the only problem is too many taking it too far.

I'm done rambling...actually that's why I deleted alot of the other post, it's too long and boaring a subject to cover.
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« Reply #70 on: September 08, 2007, 11:08:52 AM »
Skuzzy must be enjoying a Hawaiian cruise.

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« Reply #71 on: September 08, 2007, 11:12:39 AM »
Yep...amazing how every decent thread degenerates into sewage. Ah, the anonymity of it all.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #72 on: September 08, 2007, 11:13:04 AM »
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Skuzzy must be enjoying a Hawaiian cruise.

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:lol I was thinking the same thing!:aok

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« Reply #73 on: September 08, 2007, 11:31:13 AM »
Vudak,
If you were my teacher form my NCO course.... I would be paying attention. :aok

I might talk smack some but I do it with all clean fun and have toned down alot and just fly to have fun.  I laugh when guys go rabid on 200 and start calling you a newb and all that.... I just enjoy the company.  To many good folks in here and in the game.  Oh well... just my .02.  
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« Reply #74 on: September 08, 2007, 04:50:37 PM »
like murdr says, years ago i remember the 'smack talkers' were few and far between. the defining point between now and then.....back then (4 years ago or so) smack talking was done with finesse, class, humour. nowadays everyone wants to be a smack talker and the bar has come down a few notches to the point when there is no class, no style and nothing original about talking smack anymore.
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