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Captain Fred L Hillis.
« on: September 09, 2007, 03:25:30 AM »
It would be cool if a jug skin was done in honour of this guy read about him here in this link. http://www.stormbirds.com/hillis/index1.htm

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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2007, 12:21:37 PM »
there isnt much info to go on for a jug on this web site,
after reading it all i can see iis that it was a 9th air force squadron ,the pictures are not big enough or clear enough to show squadron markings or plane markings.


been trying to find out some more info but havent found anything,

Maybe Dan might have something to go on to start as a basis?
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2007, 08:53:12 PM »
The markings on his plane are the same as the p-47d-40 we have in the game for tarheel hal.   Also based off Captain Hillis's description of the pane it has to be this squadron the 366th fs. f/g 358th.
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Some extra pics.
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2007, 02:58:01 AM »
   

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Will this help Rogerdee.
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2007, 04:29:39 AM »
       

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2007, 09:34:04 AM »
yes that does help

the model looks like  a d40 but one of the planes in the orgional photo looks more like the d25 with out the xtra fin extension along the top.

I ike the d11 but we got too many of them already:(
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2007, 01:12:53 PM »
I think cookie5 & 6 were all d40's trying to find more info, tail numbers the colours of the insignia & so on in his bio it said a motion picture was done on his squadron & his plane still looking for that. At least you can tell on  2 pictures in his bio that his plane was IAS I would have to assume all the other cookies are the same. I can make out the tail numbers on the first plane looks like 228651.

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2007, 02:41:13 PM »
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yes that does help

the model looks like  a d40 but one of the planes in the orgional photo looks more like the d25 with out the xtra fin extension along the top.

I ike the d11 but we got too many of them already:(


The model carries the serial number of a P-47D-30-RA. Tarheel Hal is also a P-47D-30-RA.

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2007, 12:11:55 AM »
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The model carries the serial number of a P-47D-30-RA. Tarheel Hal is also a P-47D-30-RA.

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 So is tarheel Hal we have in the game correct since it is listed as a d-40?

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2007, 05:38:30 PM »
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So is tarheel Hal we have in the game correct since it is listed as a d-40?


We have lots of skins in the game that do not actually belong to the model.

P-47 Penrod and Sam is on a D-11, when the actual aircraft was a D-21.

There is no real visual difference between a D-30 and a D-40.

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2007, 07:39:23 PM »
Thank you for clearing that up for me was starting to think all this research was for nothing If I had the wrong model.

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2007, 11:14:18 AM »
well working from the black and white photoand using the other pictures i sort of come up with this
not sure iff the colours are right yet [/IMG] [/IMG]

i know the tail number is wrong but my eyes and my pc arnt good enough to read it in the bw picture
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2007, 11:09:24 PM »
Looks good so far the green on the bulk of the fusalage & the grey looks about spot on as well as the tail & its orange colour. As you said it is hard to make out the rest from a black & white photo still digging around for info. Found a book that was written about the 358th f/g at $197.00 it may have to sit on the shelf until I know a little more about it, also a original leather copy for over $500.00 that will not be in my collection that's for  sure lol.   http://www.biblio.com/details.php?dcx=53339245&aid=frg The tail # I am almost certain is 228651. Great job will keep looking for info have a few jug dvd's on order see what I can find I may contact this guy too he may be able to help. http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/articles/news1-p47.htm

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2007, 02:18:20 AM »
I think the S is over lapping the orange & the green in the photo it looks as if the lower portion of the orange tapers forward were the top is leaning back a bit towards the tail. I can see a line right through the S were the 2 colours meet.

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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2007, 02:44:38 AM »
Well dvd's arrived not much use had a lot of recent footage of Tarheel Hal. I ordered that book that I mentioned nothing on Captain Hillis or his plane. It did have pictures of the above pictured Razor backs they are correct markings & colours. The web site that has Hillis's bio I sent them your pictures & they liked them a great deal & some one is to get back with me with some more info. When it is included in the game http://www.stormbirds.com would like to post them on the bio web page.