Originally posted by cpxxx
Here in Ireland, we're new to the problem but we want to avoid Britain and America's mistakes. The last thing we need in a small country is ghettos. Lately there was a minor fuss, when a Sikh who trained as a police reservist was told he couldn't wear a turban on duty instead of the official uniform hat. The government stood it's ground. Indeed many Sikhs actually agreed with the stance.
Too bad our government isn't doing much anything to avoid the problems that can be clearly seen in our neighboring country Sweden. The people in general are in different mindset than our politicians. Always when someone talks against the "rights" of the immigrants in the public it'll end up in the media with lots of accusations of racism. Nobody dares to decline anything from the minorities for being afraid of losing public imago, whether it was the immigrants or our very own highly privileged finn-swedish minority.
The ideology of multiculturalism is as bad as communism - Neither will work in the real world.
Sometimes even our minorities disagree with our "flower hat aunties". The most recent case was when our largest national newspaper, Helsingin Sanomat, examined some thirty Thai massaging places. All but one of the places offered sex services without the customer asking for it - Even the one place which didn't did offer sex services when asked.
This led to some questions on whether there's something bad in our soecity, when some immigrants are selling sex services for living and what could be done to improve their situation. The matter was made worse by the fact that in Thailand prostitution is illegal (although usually ignored in many places) and that led to a conclusion that it's a cultural issue - Thai culture is strongly against prostitution. Nobody of course asked the Thai's themselves (and in most cases it would been useless to ask such a thing from our immigrants, which I will get into later).
Soon after the Finnish Thai society came to media and said "the Finnish community shouldn't change, but we [Thais] should adapt". That's something that every immigrant should do when moving to a different country. This is the reason why I respect asians much more than any of the other major groups that have immigrated to Finland as refugees.
Asians are hardly ever in the headlines in a negative manner, especially when the headlines are about rape or violence. Neither do they constantly whine about racism or insist new rights from us. It's also more common to see asians with finns than the middle easterners or africans. Which of the latter are mostly seen with finnish women (and the possible marriage mostly ends in divorce. Gee, what a surprise, the black men from Africa weren't as good as they were exotic!).
Of the immigrants somali refugees from Africa (or just africans, because many have lied their country of origin. It's very common in Europe) are the worst. There's hardly ever anything good about them in the headlines. Usually it's about rape and violence. The worst is that the crimes by somalis usually happen to random people who cannot in any way avert the situation. Such random violence has been nearly non-existant in Finland. Typically violence happens between two intoxicated persons or persons who know each others from before, making it an avoidable situation most times.
That's the scary thing, every black guy on the streets, especially those in groups, can be a bad sign. We can't even have convicted somali criminals deported because that's supposedly racistic! Some people believe there's been a lack of help for the refugees and we've failed to support them to adapt into our society. Therefore we should do more to support them (a.k.a spend more money to fulfill our duty to uphold their rights).
How come some minorities have problems to adapt while some have adapted and are well respected? Of course these flower hat aunties are in the mindset that the problem is always in the majority and minorities are victims by default. For an example in Sweden 30% of the rapes have been committed by immigrants of muslim origin; Of course there are alot less muslims in Sweden than 30%.
I would say that too much help for the refugees leads to problems with adapting. They'll only adapt to ask more, because human by nature is never satisfied when it's possible to have more.
