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Offline FrodeMk3

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« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2007, 07:01:53 PM »
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The thing that keeps bugging the **** out of me is how its referred to as a Vacuum bomb, or Fuel Air Bomb. You simply CANNOT have a fuel air bomb beyond the 2000 lb class range. There is no burster in existence that will distribute 9 tonnes of explosive material with an oxidizer (oxygen presumably) in a uniform manner, and then after all is said and done detonate the cloud. It is simply a physical impossibility.

What is more likely is a aluminum slurry mix with some oxidizer mixed in uniformly. In the BLU-82's case, its a GSX Slurry with Aluminum. It all depends on how stable you want the explosive to be to be used as a weapon.


I'd like to say, Wolfala, that we still don't have good intel on the latest Soviet weapons and Tech advances. They've been first in some suprising areas (Like that hyper-cavitating rocket torpedo that was reportedly being tested on the Kursk.) I would not be suprised if they found a way to make a super-large FAE.
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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2007, 07:10:02 PM »
I suppose it's also possible that they might have, shall we say, exaggerated a tiny bit. After all, I'm sure we can absolutely trust EVERYTHING released by the ministry of information in russia.
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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2007, 07:14:43 PM »
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A vacuum bomb?  By Electrolux?  Peddled door to door, or in vans festooned with balloons at low-rent street corners?


LOL,

That's funny!
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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2007, 07:31:36 PM »
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No, the second one is terrorism.

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Canadian, eh?  Any RCAF pilots in your family tree?  How about RAF Bomber Command ones from across the pond?

It's fairly well reported that *just* about the time the British High Command was having second thoughts about and cancelling 1000-plane firebomb raids against German cities, high ranking Germans were having serious concerns about being completely unable to continue the war because of them.

I think it was Albert Speer who remarked (non-verbatim), "Had 5-6 more cities gone the way of Hamburg, we would have been finished."

It sure was nice of us to spare a few hundred thousand people to doom several million.

Yes, I know times are different now and we aren't exactly fighting a country.  But I'll tell you one thing...  Those terrorists over there put on an awful big show about being tough guys this and that, but start targeting their families and you'll find they're human too.  I for one think it's much better to quite deliberately kill a few hundred thousand in a few raids than to kill a few million as collateral or accidental damage bit by bit over the years.  YVMV.
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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2007, 10:25:08 PM »
and this IS?
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« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2007, 10:26:19 PM »
The problems all stem from the fact that you touch yourself at night.
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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2007, 02:10:57 AM »
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After all, I'm sure we can absolutely trust EVERYTHING released by the ministry of information in russia.


Boroda? :D
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« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2007, 11:48:13 AM »
Yep ol' baghdad boroda is one of the largest sources of russian "stuff" on the bbs.
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« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2007, 12:23:35 PM »
Kinda makes you wonder if the "news" he sees is just reruns of 70's "news" broadcasts or if all his info comes from folders and flyers marked "CCCP"

Very entertaining tho
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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2007, 11:49:28 PM »
images of that Russian non-nuke bomb... The Dad of All Bombs:p


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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2007, 10:14:25 AM »
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i think the US is going toward smaller/smarter bombs for more bombing precision.


Yeah. Compare Su-25 and A-10 concepts. A-10 is a dumb plane with expensive smart weapons, Su-25 is a smart plane with any weapons, dumb OR smart.

In Grozny 1995 they managed to place a FAB-250 into a sewage well, blowing up Chechen "government" bunker.

Now they are fitting Su-24 frontline bombers with a bombing control system that can put a dumb FAB in a bull's eye from several kilometers. Lipetsk Combat Application Center already trains the crews.
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« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2007, 11:36:25 AM »
the Su-25 is a target drone for F22 pilots.
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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2007, 12:37:55 PM »
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the Su-25 is a target drone for F22 pilots.


Sure, for both of them.

BTW, it took two AIM-9 hits to shoot down a single Su-25, and no one knows how many missiles were fired. Needless to say that a pilot survived.
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« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2007, 01:58:46 AM »
Cool. On top of the explosice power anther real advantage of this thing is that can be dropped from a full combat capable bomber and not a C130/C17 as the US heavies currently are.
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« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2007, 09:31:12 AM »
Hmmm, won't surprise me if further development of the neutron bomb resumes. Maybe Red Storm Rising will finally make it to the box office. ;)
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