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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2007, 12:42:47 PM »
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That kinda proves Redtop's point ;)

 
I'd like to understand how your mind can come up with that one. I hope you also understand that the other half of the bloodiest part of the war  that they are talking about also means our allies soldiers, whom have died in that time period.

I'm sure the Canadians and Austrians will appreciate your thoughts on how well it's going.


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You don't get to decide where the war on terror is fought, neither do I or anyone else on this board for that matter. If the government decides they want to fight it in Siberia, thats where it will be fought.

Saddam was supporting terrorists in various ways, it's been shown here, you refuse to see it. Granted, he wasn't supporting terrorism on the scale of Iran, Syria or Afghanistan but he was doing it.


Funny you still cling to the "Saddam was supporting terrorists" line, hell I think even Bush gave up on that one. Maybe you can still justify it in your mind because he was a "bad guy".
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2007, 12:49:26 PM »
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Funny you still cling to the "Saddam was supporting terrorists" line, hell I think even Bush gave up on that one. Maybe you can still justify it in your mind because he was a "bad guy".

So he wasn't sending money to Palestinians to blow themselves up in Israeli pizza parlors?

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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2007, 12:57:24 PM »
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yea that worked real good for us with bin Laden didn't it?


Did you read the whole post, or just snipe at the quote?  Let me help you out:

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Actually theres an old quote that answers your questions, one that has at times gotten the U.S. into tight situations:
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2007, 01:06:09 PM »
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Hmmm..... Germany-France friendship? On the list of things you never see coming, #1 was France declaring war, #2 was France and Germany being "good friends". But will either be backed up?


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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2007, 03:13:14 PM »
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Guys, I have real hopes for this new PM. He has stated from the beginning that he wanted to mend fences with us. To me, so far it seems they are moving towards the less tolerant France of the past, so let's give em a break.


I think it is the new leadership and  perhaps a little bit rookie or inexperienced comment by the new government.  Definitely an attempt to get back on the US side.  

Besides, it's all talk.  We'll have to wait and see what Russia will do.
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2007, 04:02:24 PM »
this reminds me of work too much BLAH
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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2007, 04:23:59 PM »
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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2007, 04:37:00 PM »
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From an article today..

"Militant attacks in southern and eastern Afghanistan have escalated over the past 19 months, marking the bloodiest period since the beginning of the war."

So where do you get the idea that it's going fine? Is it because you don't hear about "American" troops getting killed?

Number one you don't even have a clue as to what I think about the war in Afghan. I'm pissed off that Bush pulled troops out of Afghanistan to put them in a BS war in Iraq. I totally supported the war in Afghan because it is the "war on terror". Yet Bush has fumbled it every step of the way and then pawned it off on our allies to go screw off in Iraq.

I've also "always" supported a war against Iran because I know they are "real" supporters of terrorism. In fact the only war I don't support is the Iraq war. So take your consertive BS and stick it some where unpleasant.

However I would never support "any" war with Bush as the commander in chief because he's screwed this country over on the current two wars and pretty much anything else he's done.


1st off , I never said it was going "Fine". That was said by someone else not me. My definition of going fine and the admins. as well as most peoples definition is WAY off. I won't elaborate on mine.

2nd off stats inho are nothing more than numbers made to report what you want them to say. 19 months? why not report 12 months. 6 months. 3 months. I don't have your source but I would be willing to bet , that those numbers and time period were done to make things look bad. Perhaps they should do 2 years worth. You can make figures come out to fit your agenda in this type of thing easy enough.

What makes a terrorist more of a threat. The one with a gun or the one that just got paid 25k to blow themself up? You say Iran is the "Real" supporter of terror. What does that make syria? How about hamas? What about islamic jihad? Less of a threat?

I don't make decisions in policy. Neither do you or anyone else here. And yes EVERYONE can and should state thier opinion. But where the troops are sent and who we fight where is not yours or my decision. If the POTUS was told that things in Afghan were going well and the generals decided that they could move troops to that "BS" war in Iraq , then thats what was done. the POTUS is only as good as his advisors and generals in a war. He can only act on INFO and INTEL provided by the proper people in that business. IF he decides to not view the info and makes the wrong choice THEN it is his fault. But if he weighs things out , talks to the people around him with the knowledge and it doesn't go right , then IMHO he is not the only one at fault.

Every frikin democrat that voted for this "BS" war gets a free pass daily while the POTUS gets hammered as well as the republicans.

If you or anyone on this BBS or throughout the country want a change in policy , then VOTE the morons that are in washington now OUT.

You say you support a war with Iran? We aren't in a war with Iran. Nor right now are we massing troops or getting ready to go to war with Iran. But I'd bet my pension and retirment that IF we do go to war with Iran , the very same people that vote for it at the first sign of a bump in the road will be calling for it to stop. The same people like you that are all in a daily tizz over Iraq and finding something to blame Bush for , will be suking up to the hillarys and obamas to get us out of Iran.

Truth is I don't think half the country , or maybe even more than that has a clue anymore. This whole country is falling apart at the seams and all thast done is play a blame game. Never a fix...just sling mud. I'm persoanlly sick of the whole damn thing and if I ever hit the lottery , Im moving to someplace like the virgin Islands or bermuda.
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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2007, 06:54:07 PM »
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/14/world/main3260912.shtml

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« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2007, 04:54:39 AM »
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I'd like to understand how your mind can come up with that one. I hope you also understand that the other half of the bloodiest part of the war  that they are talking about also means our allies soldiers, whom have died in that time period.

I'm sure the Canadians and Austrians will appreciate your thoughts on how well it's going.


 

Funny you still cling to the "Saddam was supporting terrorists" line, hell I think even Bush gave up on that one. Maybe you can still justify it in your mind because he was a "bad guy".


Redtop said if someone posts something positive you will find something negative, and you sure did. You proved Redtop correct.

As far as Saddam supporting terrorists, he sure was. Just not on the same scale as others were doing. Go back and look for the thread where I posted sources showing Saddam's support for terrorists and not just paying the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. Nah, you wont do that because it wouldn't fit your anti-Bush agenda.
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« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2007, 05:22:21 AM »
I saved ya the trouble of doing your own search.

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Iraq did have ties to terrorists, Iraq did give safe harbor including medical care to at least one Al-Qaeda member. There were also terrorist training camps in Iraq. It has also been documented that Zarqawi, former leader of Al-Qaeda in Iraq had himself and his organization in Iraq before we invaded.

Just a couple of the links from my google search *terrorist training camps in Iraq*

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conte...06/550kmbzd.asp

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...ws/khodada.html

Saying Iraq had no ties to terrorism is just as rediculous as saying Iraq had ties to 9/11.


From this thread.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html
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« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2007, 06:15:01 AM »
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I saved ya the trouble of doing your own search.



From this thread.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html



Following that logic, Timothy McVie and Ted Kaczynski operated and built their bombs inside the United State, therefore the United states supports terrorisms.

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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2007, 10:09:50 AM »
Hardly the same thing Thrawn and you know it.
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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2007, 10:49:44 AM »
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So he wasn't sending money to Palestinians to blow themselves up in Israeli pizza parlors?

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Don't know,  Would not surprise me,  But then Saudi Arabia was holding telethons on there TV for the same thing,
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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2007, 02:43:19 PM »
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Hardly the same thing Thrawn and you know it.



It's comparable.  Those camps in Iraq were in Kurdish territory.  Saddam had very little control over what happened there, especially after the no fly zones were instituted.