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Offline Bino

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« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2007, 12:24:51 PM »
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Originally posted by Motherland
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the Japanese 20mm's have overall crappy trajectory
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If HTC modeled it correctly (and I believe they did), the A6M2 armament should be very, very similar to the Messerschmitt Bf-109E-3.  In Real Life, both the German MG-FF and the Japanese Type 99 were based on the Oerlikon FF. And there was not much difference between a German 7.9mm MG17 and a Japanese 7.7mm Type 97.


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« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2007, 12:42:12 PM »
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Originally posted by Lusche
There is no such thing as "easy kills" in a zero - far too many disadvantages.


True enough, I can easily name a few them...

1. The guns trajectory and over-all killing power is bad.
2. It's slow, very slow, i've been out run by bombers in it.
3. It can't go fast, 400 is the max untill your essentially completely unmovable in it, even 350 is about the max you want to be going.
4. It has about 0% armor, from pilot armor to self sealing tanks it has neither, although I've taken pleanty of hits from .50 Cals and 7mm's all it takes is 1-2 bullets through one of the tanks to finish it.

But then again, if used properly there is pleanty of ways to over-come the short comings except against some of the better pilots who always manage anyways.

1. Get close, 400 or closer for the cowlings and 200 or closer for the 20mm's
2. Get them slow, theres pleanty of info on Netaces and the Hitech training site on how to do it.
3. See #2
4. It turns better then anything else in the game, keep it moveing to keep there gun solution off you.

So is it an easy plane to fly? Yes and no.

Although newer pilots may be able to pick it up easily because its turning rate allows for the easy 6 o'clock shots, turning alone will never let a Zero live long because it will simply be BnZ'ed untill a fuel tank is hit or it breaks apart completely.

The Zero require a large sense of SA to be able to fly it properly. As well as well managed tactics to allow them to be able to kill the alt-monkeys E state. It also requires a a fair skill of aiming (just like any other plane) and is harder to aim then other planes due to the guns trajectory. There are pleanty of other factors to put into play here but writting it all would take to long and yous all can think for yourselves. All in all the Zero is no easier to fly then a P-38, P-51, Spit, Corsair, Hellcat or any other plane, but rather requires a different set of tactics to allow survivability.
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« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2007, 01:35:00 PM »
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Originally posted by trigger2
in other words
it's too simple, it's easy and takes hardly any practice.
dweebs get in em (along with spitfires...) and have totally ruined the plane.
if i see an experianced pilot in one...i know to go the other way
i respect the truely experianced zero pilots, but 99.9% of em are dweebs who need to learn a plane rather than pick the easy kills.
if there would be more experianced people flyin em, i'd be all for it, but i just see it as another dweeb plane that's not needed.

So in translation, "Only BnZ is a valid combat tactic and all fighters tuned to other styles of combat aren't "real" fighters and ought to be removed.  Then we can have P-51s and Fw190s running away from eachother and it will be the bestest game ever!"

trigger2, you have a lot to learn.  Your defining of certain aircraft as "dweeb planes" is complete bull****.
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« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2007, 09:38:10 AM »
Did the a6m3 have Type 99I or Type 99II cannons? If it's the II, I'd take it!

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« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2007, 09:47:31 AM »
the A6M-3 (model 32) had the type I cannon with 65 rounds per gun.  it had a more powerful engine (nakajima sakae 21 1130 hp with a two stage supercharger)  it had inferior range to the A6M2 but the clipped wings gave it better turning abilities over the -2.  the -3 was faster, climbed faster and had slightly more cannon plus it out turned the -2.

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« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2007, 04:13:48 PM »
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the A6M-3 (model 32) had the type I cannon with 65 rounds per gun.  it had a more powerful engine (nakajima sakae 21 1130 hp with a two stage supercharger)  it had inferior range to the A6M2 but the clipped wings gave it better turning abilities over the -2.  the -3 was faster, climbed faster and had slightly more cannon plus it out turned the -2.


Really, I always thought the M2 turned better, fine by me, as far as I see it thats one more reason to make it my Zero of choice when/if we get it.
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« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2007, 04:35:52 PM »
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Really, I always thought the M2 turned better, fine by me, as far as I see it thats one more reason to make it my Zero of choice when/if we get it.
there were two variants of the -3  the model 32 with the clipped wings and the model 22 with the folding wing tips and the additional fuel the model 22 did not turn as well as -2 but the 32 did according to what I've read up on them in any event this is a good place to start

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« Reply #52 on: September 17, 2007, 10:41:10 PM »
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there were two variants of the -3  the model 32 with the clipped wings and the model 22 with the folding wing tips and the additional fuel the model 22 did not turn as well as -2 but the 32 did according to what I've read up on them in any event this is a good place to start


The Zeke 32 was the one I was talking about from the beginning, not the Model 22. Also thanks for link, a lot of useful information.
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« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2007, 10:53:13 PM »
Also on a side note (and this is more just wishful thinking on my part, flameing replys not required) does any of HiTech have any comments on this thread? It's always nice to get a bit of feed back from the top of the chain of command and hear there thoughts. :D
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