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Offline EagleDNY

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« Reply #90 on: September 20, 2007, 11:10:29 AM »
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*Clears throat*  I hate to tell you buddy, but you live in a socialist state.  "Pure capitalism" cannot survive.  There is no way around it. To believe otherwise is folly.  

Socialism is why we have the Fed to regulate interest rates so we avoid inflation... socialism is why we have tarrifs to protect native industry... socialism is why we have farm subsidies to keep America's family run farms operating... socialism is why we have Unions and living wages... socialism is why you have more than a snowball's chance in hell to work for a company with your name on it rather than Rockefeller, Geddy, or Carnegie's.

Unchecked capitalism simply cannot exist... it is a fire that consumes all resources until it extinguishes itself after burning all of the oxygen out of the room.

Perhaps you are like the many other people who frequent these boards who don't know the difference between Socialism and Communism?


I hate to tell you Dynamite, but regulated capitalism isn't the same as socialism, and just because we have a social "safety net" doesn't make the US a socialist country.  

Also - I think hillary-care is a little closer to classical stalinist health-care than it is to a moderate socialist system.  Governments that tell people where they will work, what they will work on, what they will get paid for it, and if you do otherwise we will put you in jail are perhaps more "national socialist" than socialist ;)  

In any event, putting a government bureaucracy in charge of the health care system isn't going to "fix" anything.  If you think insurance company bureaucrats are bad, you ain't seen nothin' yet.  

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« Reply #91 on: September 20, 2007, 11:13:12 AM »
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Lets see... the reason our drugs cost so much is because of a federal socialist agency called the FDA...

The solution, as proposed by the socialists, is to make all medical care a federal program.

lazs


Exactly.  I made this point in an earlier post.  The same govt that has bungled everything else, is now the one they want in charge of health care.  Dolts.

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« Reply #92 on: September 20, 2007, 11:32:01 AM »
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Tip-  the public library is there for you to use (oh no! Another Godless socialistic ideal that has caught on???  How dare they spend tax dollars in the public interest?)  Go there... check out a book.  Reading is fundamental :rofl


Just as an FYI - the U.S. public library system was brought to you courtesy of a god-fearing capitalist named Andrew Carnegie who had the unmitigated gall to make a huge pile of cash and then give most of it away.  Carnegie established some 3,000 libraries in 47 states by giving a community the funds to build and equip the library, with the community being responsible for the maintenance thereafter.  

I think there was a bit more noblesse oblige than socialist ideals at work there...

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« Reply #93 on: September 20, 2007, 01:42:39 PM »
EagleDNY, research Carnegie, Frick and the Homestead steel strike and you will see just how generous Carnegie was.

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« Reply #94 on: September 20, 2007, 04:13:32 PM »
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Wow... somebody hates America.

*Clears throat*  I hate to tell you buddy, but you live in a socialist state.  "Pure capitalism" cannot survive.  There is no way around it. To believe otherwise is folly.  

Socialism is why we have the Fed to regulate interest rates so we avoid inflation... socialism is why we have tarrifs to protect native industry... socialism is why we have farm subsidies to keep America's family run farms operating... socialism is why we have Unions and living wages... socialism is why you have more than a snowball's chance in hell to work for a company with your name on it rather than Rockefeller, Geddy, or Carnegie's.

Unchecked capitalism simply cannot exist... it is a fire that consumes all resources until it extinguishes itself after burning all of the oxygen out of the room.

Perhaps you are like the many other people who frequent these boards who don't know the difference between Socialism and Communism?


how do waste treament plants work into the equation....:rofl