Author Topic: P-51s questions (Read 1316 times)

redman555 · « **on:** September 20, 2007, 08:20:35 PM »

K, i need some serious help with this here P-51.... some ppl r hecka good in it.. i cant shoot anything down in it, idk if its cause i prettymuch only fly P-47s or wat, but again, i cant kill anyone/anything in it, anyone got tips?

-BigBOBCH

Chalenge · « **Reply #1 on:** September 20, 2007, 08:26:47 PM »

First you need to get comfortable with it which means you have to set your guns at a range that you like to shoot from and then stick to it. I use 425 yds. Next you need to get your stick setup so your nose doesnt bounce when you move the controls even slightly. Once all thats in order you can start thinking about killing.

Join us sick puppies in the training arena sometime. When we go there we generally work on 1v1 and 2v2 in the P51.

evenhaim · « **Reply #2 on:** September 20, 2007, 09:20:49 PM »

Wrong forum bud but ok,

be aggresive,
keep it fast,
use angles not raw turning when slow,
learn your strengths,
set a good convergence 250-275-300
and learn some serious Sa

Regards,
Freezman

Latrobe · « **Reply #3 on:** September 20, 2007, 09:24:07 PM »

^^^^^
best advice you can get

SteveBailey · « **Reply #4 on:** September 20, 2007, 09:41:18 PM »

I advise against staggering your convergence. I used to do this in AHI with the pony with good success.
The new gunnery model makes a single convergence point much more effective for the six .50's.

I fly the 51D almost exclusively and have a ton of fun in it.

Steve

redman555 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 20, 2007, 11:01:31 PM »

k, i will try some of this stuff out 2 morrow ty u all

-BigBOBCH

kamilyun · « **Reply #6 on:** September 20, 2007, 11:21:04 PM »

The P51 is a beautiful machine that combines the best attributes of two other superb planes in the AH2 inventory, the 110G and La7. As such you must learn to combine the flying styles best suited to these two planes: HO everything in sight, then run like heck.

Always works for me!!!

evenhaim · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2007, 11:27:19 PM »

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Originally posted by kamilyun
The P51 is a beautiful machine that combines the best attributes of two other superb planes in the AH2 inventory, the 110G and La7. As such you must learn to combine the flying styles best suited to these two planes: HO everything in sight, then run like heck.

Always works for me!!!

Kam you smell funny

SkyRock · « **Reply #8 on:** September 21, 2007, 11:10:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Chalenge
Next you need to get your stick setup so your nose doesnt bounce when you move the controls even slightly.

Controlling nose bounce has more to do with E-managment than stik settings!

PS. SkyRock<-----owns the Sick Puppies!:aok

ScorpCH · « **Reply #9 on:** September 21, 2007, 01:44:27 PM »

bigbob, being a fellow CH, ill be more then happy to help you learn about the p51. i love flyign the p38, but i realy shine in the p51. just this past wednesday, i got low and slow with a spit 14 and a typhoon and took them into a rolling scissors, which the spit should have won due to better turnign capabilities and climb, but i was full flaps and missing my rudder. after it was all said and done, i made both of them auger durign the corse of about 7-8 rolling scissor loops.

evenhaim is right tho, you gotta kepe it fast. she can handle great at low speeds with flaps, but thats soemthign that takes alot of practice and feelign to do. the first notch flaps come out at 300 mph. at full flaps and a little manual trim management, i have actualy gotten the pony to turn with and kill a spit 16 before. the is a plane that takes feelign to get use to. she may seem a little but cranky at first, but if you rub her the right way, she'll make your dreams come true. we have squad night tonight, not sur eif its FSO tonight or what, but when i get on we'll both up ponies and ill give ya soem training in it.

VansCrew1 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 21, 2007, 01:54:43 PM »

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Originally posted by ScorpCH
bigbob, being a fellow CH, ill be more then happy to help you learn about the p51. i love flyign the p38, but i realy shine in the p51. just this past wednesday, i got low and slow with a spit 14 and a typhoon and took them into a rolling scissors, which the spit should have won due to better turnign capabilities and climb, but i was full flaps and missing my rudder. after it was all said and done, i made both of them auger durign the corse of about 7-8 rolling scissor loops.

evenhaim is right tho, you gotta kepe it fast. she can handle great at low speeds with flaps, but thats soemthign that takes alot of practice and feelign to do. the first notch flaps come out at 300 mph. at full flaps and a little manual trim management, i have actualy gotten the pony to turn with and kill a spit 16 before. the is a plane that takes feelign to get use to. she may seem a little but cranky at first, but if you rub her the right way, she'll make your dreams come true. we have squad night tonight, not sur eif its FSO tonight or what, but when i get on we'll both up ponies and ill give ya soem training in it.

he wants help from a GOOD pilot in the 51 not a CH

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Bosco123 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 21, 2007, 03:58:55 PM »

I know its not much skill to do this, to Cherry pick. get 14K or more and just cherry pick the hell outa people. learn throttle manegment also and you will get better in the pony:aok

a4944 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2007, 04:18:00 PM »

Your speed is your "ace in the hole". Try and keep a higher E state than the enemy cons. This could be through speed or altitude. Practice slashing attacks. The enemy will typically see you coming and break but the good maneuverability typically allows you to get a shot as you "slash" by and keep your E. I have my convergence set between 250 and 300 so these slashing attacks are typically fatal.

You can drop a notch or two of flaps to force overshoot against certain planes at high speed. You can also settle in on someones 6 with flaps and turn with most planes for a short period. You can do a hi yo-yo to bleed off speed. If you don't get the kill quick against good turning planes at low speed then use your speed to dive away or stick with it for fun. The flaps will keep you in it and other player may be inexperienced.

I equate flying a P51 to a chess game. The goal is to position yourself for a good slash attack while watching for cons. The attack is just the final part of the whole exercise. The Spiy VIII and equivalent is more of a brawler where you can get low and slow and track a con until you get the shot.

Such a wondeful game to have so many choices!

Venom

P.S. I have the opposite problem. I'm used to the P51 and have trouble with the P47s so can understand where you are coming from.

redman555 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 21, 2007, 05:06:03 PM »

lol , vans, to bad 9 outa 10 kills u get are vulches ,scorp, if u end up poppin on forums, r u gonna b on tonight b4 FSO?

SteveBailey · « **Reply #14 on:** September 22, 2007, 12:49:23 AM »

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Originally posted by ScorpCH
bigbob, being a fellow CH, ill be more then happy to help you learn about the p51. .....i realy shine in the p51.

Do your lips hurt from blowing your own horn?

while your 2/1 ratio(is that "shine"?) in the 51D is fine, you actually do better statistically in the 38L, which is a more difficult plane to bring kills home in the MA environment, IMHO.

Bigbob, this thread has some misleading/incomplete info. There's some good sticks in the TA who would happily show you some of the nuances of the 51. I think it would be a good idea to go in there. You'd really pick up some good info from some very fine trainers.

Steve