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Offline Laciner

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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2007, 11:49:27 AM »
On a tangent, I've just been reading Osprey's "Beaufighter Aces of WW2". There's a description of a (very short) fight between a Beaufighter and some unarmed Ju 52s over North Africa; the solders in the Ju 52s are described as firing back at the Beaufighters with small arms. It didn't do them any good at all, but it's one of those little things I didn't expect. Perhaps the paratroopers in Aces High could be a bit more proactive.

Doesn't sound like the best way to die, trapped in a plummeting Ju52, surrounded by bullet-ridden corpses, but then again there was a war on.
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Offline SErob19

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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2007, 04:39:55 PM »
I totally agree w/ vanscrew on this one, we have ONE transport plane.  We need a new one.
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2007, 09:59:37 AM »
Give the G.D. C-47 at least 1 gun so it can stand a chance.  The only time I support and would advise a blatant bail in front of the enemy is in C47--screw giving them points for shooting defenseless plane.
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2007, 12:29:31 PM »
I enjoy pissing off neighboring enemy aircraft, give us the .50 cal.:D
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Re: c47 defenceless
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2007, 11:07:22 PM »
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Originally posted by pengu146
the c47 right now is defence less and in real life had a 50 cal in the side. it also could carry 28 people compared to our 10 here's my proof

http://www.airpages.ru/cgi-bin/epg.pl?nav=uk60&page=c47 im sick of being blasted by a jeep that i could have blown up with my 50.
i would enjoy a 50 on my plane so i could stand a chance.


Yes the C-47 is defenceless
and Yes in WWII it was defenceless
it was a cargo plane meaning they cut down on weapons for weight
few and far between would they equip it with a .50 cal, only when STRONG enemy resistance was to be encountered

if you want a transport plane that had some arament, look at the FW 200 Condor, i know it's been requested before and I know it had it's issues (i.e. catching fire on landing [brakes overheating]) but it'd be better as it would serve multiple purposes
supplies
recon
bombing
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GOONING!!
all with the guns of a bomber

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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2007, 07:27:30 AM »
I once got a maneuver kill on a Tempest in my unarmed C47. Just took the "fight" into a valley and the wall did the rest. :D

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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2007, 10:31:28 AM »
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it would serve multiple purposes
supplies
recon
bombing
AND
GOONING!!
all with the guns of a bomber


Amen to that
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2007, 12:38:28 AM »
people, most places you take a goon in you get swarmed by everything that has a gun
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2007, 05:24:11 AM »
Anyone remember dueling C-47s in AW with gunners in the doors :) ?
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2007, 06:25:06 AM »
I've wondered this field mod thing. For example I haven't heard about any P-51D's that were delivered with 4 50cals only.
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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2007, 06:26:55 AM »
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people, most places you take a goon in you get swarmed by everything that has a gun


the c47 has a mighty weapon at it's disposal....

the pilot.

a "good" goon pilot is quite sneaky and crafty.  they approach towns from unexpected directions, hugging the ground and hiding as best they can from sight in valleys.

a "dumb" goon pilot fly's in a straight line from the base they took off from to the target town.  some even grab alt (snicker).

when I see a massive mission otw to a base, I jump in a fast plane, sneak out, and fly right to their goon.  how do I know where it is?  because 99% of the goon drivers fly right behind the mission like idiots and are alone and sitting ducks.

to recap.

if you want to make it to the town, be sneaky.  approach from an unexpected direction.

always fly as low to the ground as possible, and if you can, use the terrain as cover.

do not ever fly right behind the conga line of friendlies flying from your base to the target base.



(yes murder, I had many a right hand turning duel in c47's in AW)
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2007, 02:37:11 PM »
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the c47 right now is defence less and in real life had a 50 cal in the side.


Wrong ... just about a month ago I was speaking with my ex-uncle-in-law who piloted C47s in WWII in Burma I believe. He flew the "Hump" ... I forget where that was.

I specifically asked him if they had an .50 cals on board to shoot out the "jump" door ... he looked at me like I had one-eye ... his reply ... F**& NO !!! I WISH !!!
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Re: Re: c47 defenceless
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2007, 03:26:20 PM »
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I specifically asked him if they had an .50 cals on board to shoot out the "jump" door ... he looked at me like I had one-eye ... his reply ... F**& NO !!! I WISH !!!


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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2007, 03:40:03 PM »
The italian one tri-moter someone refresh my memory. had as amy guns as the B-17
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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2007, 04:30:00 PM »
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The reason we have 10 troops in the goon rather than 28 is because 10 is all that's needed to capture a base. Wouldn't be fair to the defending team if they had to kill 19 troops to make it a no capture.

As for a .50 cal in the goon, I don't really think we need it. If the attackers do their job right then all the goon needs to do is fly in and drop troops.


It wouldn't be fair, you have got to be kidding me, maybe attackers should be limited on ammo and bombs as well.
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