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Offline LEADPIG

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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2007, 01:46:16 PM »
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Google Earth Anyone?

     If I can see my car parked in front of my house, imagine what level of detail Big Brother can see!  How about R/C drone aircraft.  Maybe not every road, all the time, but as we need them?  Or....   What about those nifty automatically triggered cameras that take a picture of your license plate when you run a red-light on Roosevelt Blvd., or when you violate the EZ-pass lane?  Put them on motion sensors.  So what if you get a few pics of camels, or the the occasional trooper taking a leak.

     In this digital age where one can stream a Britney Spears video to a cell phone, I don't think it is out if the realm of possibility.  It is high time some of this technology that we use for entertainment can be implemented here.  Technology is everwhere.  

     I recently went on my honeymoon to Petit St. Vincent (far south in the Grenadines)  I am not kidding when I say it is tiny and remote.  About 2 - 3 sq. miles.  I took us 2 planes and a 45 min boat ride to get there.  It it only accessable by boat.  Look it up.  But.....  all of the staff had cell phones, I was able to get service (much to my chagrin, actually), and event the charter sailboat  had broadband internet access.  Technology permeates everywhere, even in the desert.  I'm sure that there is SOME possible way to use some of it to keep our troops safer.  Heck, lets put some of our acne prone squeakers,  or white collar hackers in prison to some good use.  Let them hack THEIR network for a change.  

     Next time they try to pull up data or sensitive material from us, fedd em' a Britney video. :aok

*edit*  Or, maybe, stop trying to keep Israel so "calm"  Let the Iraelis have a wack at them for a change.  I know that I, personally, wouldn't want to screw with them.  They have 12 year olds that could kick my *** in hand to hand.  I think its time to let the genie out of the bottle.  It is hard to argue with a nation that believes that their land was given to them by God.


Von Messa ever heard of this mother, from the United States who is using the internet from her own home posing as a terrorist, and asking for trade in weapons and other materials and in the process getting terrorist, pictures, locations, and stone cold info. She then passes it on to i think it is the Fbi, Homeland security, and whatever government entities that will listen to her.

Guess what, she's not barking up the wrong tree. As i believe they have gotten a good number of solid leads, and information that i believe has led to some arrests. It's a massive terrorist sting operation. Now imagine what would happen if we did that using America's many varied resources.

While Bush and every conservative republican war monger in America is busy spraying piss into the wind in Iraq only to have it blow back in their face. This womans doing it the smart way, she's not screwing around with that other crap. She's going straight to where Johhny terrorist hides and eliminating him.

Imagine that on a large scale, might be more accurate than what were doing now. The terrorist opens his door hoping to get his brand new C4 explosive materials only to find a bunch of angry Special Ops folks at his door.

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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2007, 01:56:34 PM »
what makes you think that is not being done already? Because the New Joke Times hasn't announced it to the enemy?  

NYT, "hey al qaeda. the US govt is listening to your cell phones, so you better stop using them."

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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2007, 02:29:38 PM »
ledpig...  No.. they really don't have cover.. when they are digging a hole in the side of a road and lugging a 105 howitzer shell or IED.

They also do not look like everyone else to the residents.    In vietnam we had the same problem but once the residents feel protected enough by their own police or US forces... they rat out the bad guys...  

Threatening to pull out every few weeks and crying that America wants to give up is not gonna instill that kind of faith in the good people who can't stand the insurgents in any case.

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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2007, 02:42:28 PM »
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what makes you think that is not being done already? Because the New Joke Times hasn't announced it to the enemy?  

NYT, "hey al qaeda. the US govt is listening to your cell phones, so you better stop using them."


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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2007, 02:58:39 PM »
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ledpig...  No.. they really don't have cover.. when they are digging a hole in the side of a road and lugging a 105 howitzer shell or IED.

They also do not look like everyone else to the residents.    In vietnam we had the same problem but once the residents feel protected enough by their own police or US forces... they rat out the bad guys...  

Threatening to pull out every few weeks and crying that America wants to give up is not gonna instill that kind of faith in the good people who can't stand the insurgents in any case.

lazs


Lasz, they are only lugging those explosives for a very small amount of time compared to the rest of the 23 some odd hours they could be doing something else. You might as well lay in wait trying to get a glimpse of "Bigfoot". After that nobody knows who they are.

And yes Lasz i'm sure the residents know who they are, but they won't say. And if we don't know who they are Lasz then it's pointless.

And you are right Lasz once the residents feel protected enough they will tell who they are, there are already some brave ones doing that. But untill we are gone Lasz and we stop attracting insurgents to the area lke flies on *****, i don't see a mass information sharing exchange going on anytime soon.

And yes Lasz you are very right about the last point, which is why i say we stay. But unfortunately when we leave (mark my words) "The place falls to hell".


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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2007, 03:05:14 PM »
ledpig.. I am afraid that I am getting mixed messages from you... you seem to be saying that we are attracting the insurgents and they will be attracted so long as we are there but then finish by saying that... as soon as we leave.. the place will go to hell..

Both of your statements have elements of truth...  It is a fact that we are attracting the most zealous and their resources to iraq... that tho.. is a good thing..  they are willing to die.. we are willing to kill them.

The last is true too... if we just cut and run it will go to hell... we need to continue to build up their security..  they are graduating 1,000 officers a month now...  things are improving... as sick as we are of the insurgents blowing up civilians... think how sick the civilians must be of it.. how much they must hate em.    the pressure to do something must be immense.

How to otherwise explain the bravery of so many of the iraqi security guys... the risks they are taking...

I hope we stay long enough to see it all pay off.

oh.. the explosives thing..  no matter how well you blend... no matter how scared the populace is to turning you in... you still have to dig a hole in the side of the road... I just wish we could study the sat photos and, if not catch and kill, at least give some traffic advisories.



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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2007, 03:28:33 PM »
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Through personal messages i've recieved to me from other members explaining to me your mental situation. You are no longer worth the mental energy to explain things too. For you to ask me that question with a straight face shows me you are clearly an idiot. Bye Bye...


it looks like all you are capable of is making personal attacks.

have a nice day. :D

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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2007, 04:37:27 PM »
If they shot a curious  woman or a curious kid they should be prosecuted and locked up.:aok

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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2007, 04:44:36 PM »
i would not worry about shooting women and kids, now that the reporters have reported the tactics the troops can't use it anymore.

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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2007, 05:08:42 PM »
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i would not worry about shooting women and kids

This says alot!

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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2007, 05:25:09 PM »
what i meant rockhead was that the troops would not be shooting anyone now that the tactics have been exposed by the Pulitzer prize wannabee reporters.

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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2007, 07:17:14 PM »
But, if you REALLY need rules, this isn't something to worry about.  Don't pick up weapons or weapons materials in a combat zone.  You might get your brains blown out.

This did remind me of a storry I read about in Iraq.  Some squad had just wasted a platoon of the enemy.  Some cars along the highway pulled up and stopped.   Obviously, the dead men's guns were laying around.

The guy writing the story said, "I said to myself, 'please don't pick up the weapons.  I don't want to have to kill you.' "   It's clear that there is some rule of engagement about anyone picking up weapons needing killed.

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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2007, 09:20:56 PM »
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This says alot!


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« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2007, 01:17:40 AM »
quote:Originally posted by john9001
i would not worry about shooting women and kids



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This says alot!



     Not to condone this tactic, but being completely serious from someone who has been there, does anyone see how early their own kids learn to play PS2, or any other video games?  That's how early some of these children over there are given their indoctrination into terrorism.   They bear children over here which makes them automatic citizens (bearing all of the appropriate documentation), then they are spirited away to be trained in terrorist camps until age of maturity.  At that point they come back to US soil (again, with all paperwork confirming status as a U.S. citizen) and begin their "work".  All BS aside and every opinion of this aside, man, woman, or child, if you pick up a weapon or anything that can be used as a weapon you have just made yourself a target, and I personally WILL draw a bead on your carcass.  Women and children are NOT above suspicion when it comes to this.  Ask any Iraq or Vietnam vet for their opinion.
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« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2007, 01:42:48 AM »
Yea the problem is telling if those women and children are going to do mortal harm and not just being curious. Since everyone who looks middle eastern in appearance is not a terrorist. You don't think that typically every 10 year old over there is going to wield a gun at Americans do you. They might just be acting as kids and going, oooh a gun i want to touch. That being said you gotta be safe anyway as we know they'll use anyone or anything to kills us.