Author Topic: Cops Above The Law (Read 1799 times)

Chairboy · « **Reply #15 on:** September 26, 2007, 01:47:59 PM »

Neubob, I'll spell it out for you, as subtlety seems to escape you. I do so hope that Cav58d won't be scared off by this:

1. I think Cav58d is a raving loony.
2. I am entertained by loonies, especially when, in their raving, they happen to be on the opposite side of an issue as me. It's less wonderful when I think they're hurting my cause through association, but that's a risk in any dealing with loonies.
3. Because of 1 and 2, I look forward to seeing him in this thread. While there's a chance that he'll say 'That's just not cool' to the website, there's a, in my opinion, much greater chance that if he appears, he'll launch into a spiel about how the website describes a common courtesy, that officers are entitled to this dispensation, and suggest that the rest of us might consider might consider certain anatomically difficult maneuvers with ourselves for their lack of respect for both the badge and the hard work that gives them this special treatment.

If we're lucky, perhaps 9/11 will be mentioned.

Hope this clears things up for ye.

Curval · « **Reply #16 on:** September 26, 2007, 01:48:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Ive never hurt another copper , or their family, and Ive been one for more years then many of you have on earth.

Long enough to be able to retire any time I want. And long enough to not care what anyone thinks about it.

Boy, these Internet "cop threads" are just precious.

If you are a rich 46 year old cop you have either inherited money or you've been "on the take" for some time.

Which is it?

jhookt · « **Reply #17 on:** September 26, 2007, 01:51:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Where I come from if you gave another copper a ticket you'd be treated like you had the Bubonic plague. But..I work the big city ghetto.

Ive never hurt another copper , or their family, and Ive been one for more years then many of you have on earth.

Long enough to be able to retire any time I want. And long enough to not care what anyone thinks about it.

Boy, these Internet "cop threads" are just precious.

so surely you've been a cop long enough to have seen plenty of bad judgement calls made by other cops, or perhaps you yourself have made one or two regrettable decisions through the course of your career.

and certainly you could understand that the only defense we non-cops have against these injustices is our voices.

so the point of your reply was....?

Elfie · « **Reply #18 on:** September 26, 2007, 01:51:34 PM »

Pretty pitiful that folks that have sworn to uphold the law get so bent out of shape for being written a ticket for breaking the law.

Neubob · « **Reply #19 on:** September 26, 2007, 01:57:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Neubob, I'll spell it out for you, as subtlety seems to escape you. I do so hope that Cav58d won't be scared off by this:

1. I think Cav58d is a raving loony.
2. I am entertained by loonies, especially when, in their raving, they happen to be on the opposite side of an issue as me. It's less wonderful when I think they're hurting my cause through association, but that's a risk in any dealing with loonies.
3. Because of 1 and 2, I look forward to seeing him in this thread. While there's a chance that he'll say 'That's just not cool' to the website, there's a, in my opinion, much greater chance that if he appears, he'll launch into a spiel about how the website describes a common courtesy, that officers are entitled to this dispensation, and suggest that the rest of us might consider might consider certain anatomically difficult maneuvers with ourselves for their lack of respect for both the badge and the hard work that gives them this special treatment.

If we're lucky, perhaps 9/11 will be mentioned.

Hope this clears things up for ye.

Relax, Chairboy, I was just messing with you. I had no intention of reading into your statement any more than what was on the surface, and could not care less what sort of tension, be it political, ideological, philosophical or sexual, exists between the two of you.

Maverick · « **Reply #20 on:** September 26, 2007, 02:01:20 PM »

It's interesting to see what you find on the internet. Of course EVERY site on the internet is honest and truthful about what they are and are doing. I found it even more interesting that the "contact us" portion of the web site has no way to contact the folks putting it out. The place listed for e-mail is blank even though they "Claim" to have 3 cops and a professor as the main folks running the site.

Chairboy · « **Reply #21 on:** September 26, 2007, 02:02:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
Relax, Chairboy, I was just messing with you. I had no intention of reading into your statement any more than what was on the surface, and could not care less what sort of tension, be it political, ideological, philosophical or sexual, exists between the two of you.

Heh, works for me. I guess the order of the day is just hot Loon on Loon action, because I know that plenty of folks here have the same thoughts about my stability that I do about Cav.

Neubob · « **Reply #22 on:** September 26, 2007, 02:03:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
It's interesting to see what you find on the internet. Of course EVERY site on the internet is honest and truthful about what they are and are doing. I found it even more interesting that the "contact us" portion of the web site has no way to contact the folks putting it out. The place listed for e-mail is blank even though they "Claim" to have 3 cops and a professor as the main folks running the site.

So there is no truth to the practice of 'profession courtesy' between police officers? Is it taboo, or is it common practice? Or is it something in between? And how do you deal with it?

MotorOil1 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 26, 2007, 02:04:45 PM »

That web site is an abomination...... Anyone who thinks they are above the law has something wrong with them. I'm not a cop but I've risked my life in a past occupation, does that mean I shouldn't get speeding tickets? What about all those guys in Iraq, Afghanistan and other conflict zones? They should get a break also no?

Our city mayor refused to pay a speeding ticket once because he was the "mayor", driving a city vehicle during business hours. Now every city worker in the city is refusing to pay their tickets..... Idiot, never the less, he didn't get re-elected. Did this within site of an election.......

Laws are in place for a reason, not so cops can break them.

Maverick · « **Reply #24 on:** September 26, 2007, 02:15:34 PM »

We deal with it a lot like some of the public. I got a ticket, I deserved it, and I wrote other Officers. I didn't write all of the Officers I stopped and at the same time I didn't write all the civilians I stopped either.

Frankly the ones most likely to get away from a traffic ticket were the Fire Fighters and their Para-Medics. Those were the guys that busted their butts to try and keep us alive.

No matter what I say those of you that want to believe the worst will continue to do so. There isn't anything I could write to change their minds.

That's one of the reasons most of us who did the job tend to not post that much in the threads like this. We put up with the bashing on the job because we had to. This is just another example of what we had to put up with from the "general public". Some of the public were neutral, some were pretty decent and others were simply being an arse, especially when they were in trouble.

DoctorYO · « **Reply #25 on:** September 26, 2007, 02:26:27 PM »

Here you go mav...

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Rich46yo · « **Reply #26 on:** September 26, 2007, 02:27:33 PM »

I agree with Maverick. This is the first "cop thread" Ive been in, on the net, in many years.

We depend on each other for our lives and you think we'd write each other traffic tickets??

Man, if you think so, then get a life.

And I have news for you. If you were in uniform too 99% of you wouldnt either.

Neubob · « **Reply #27 on:** September 26, 2007, 02:31:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I agree with Maverick. This is the first "cop thread" Ive been in, on the net, in many years.

We depend on each other for our lives and you think we'd write each other traffic tickets?? Man, if you think so, then get a life.

And I have news for you. If you were in uniform too 99% of you wouldnt either.

Did you even read his response?

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Originally posted by Maverick
We deal with it a lot like some of the public. I got a ticket, I deserved it, and I wrote other Officers. I didn't write all of the Officers I stopped and at the same time I didn't write all the civilians I stopped either.

Frankly the ones most likely to get away from a traffic ticket were the Fire Fighters and their Para-Medics. Those were the guys that busted their butts to try and keep us alive.

Where does it say he doesn't give other cops tickets?

Maverick · « **Reply #28 on:** September 26, 2007, 03:11:03 PM »

Neubob,

I also didn't write my mother a ticket nor did I write one to my First Sgt's wife (he was in the truck too). He was the Top Sgt. in my Company when I was the C.O., still a great guy even if he didn't like Officers. On the other hand I did write Gary Coleman and a City Councilman as well.

There is something called discretion that every Officer has regarding things like tickets. You do not have to write a ticket to every person you stop, nor do you have to let every person go.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #29 on:** September 26, 2007, 03:11:39 PM »

Rich46yo,
I can see giving a cop, or anyone, a break when it’s just mild speeding with the traffic kind of a thing. But do you always give a cop a break no matter what? What if you pulled a guy over who was weaving all over the road, reeked of alcohol and who could hardly stand up – but was a cop? Would you give that guy a break just because he was a cop? Tell me that you see that there is a certain point where laws apply to cops as well as civilians?