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Offline Chairboy

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« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2007, 03:13:06 PM »
Maverick, the site seems to criticize those who, when they use their discretion, end up giving the officer a ticket.  While it's clear that an officer is under no obligation to ticket every person he pulls over, a carte blanch assumption that he never ticket another officer seems to be what they're suggesting.
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« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2007, 03:16:52 PM »
Maverick,

I wasn't criticizing you. I was using your words as an example of a cop using discretion in doing his job, as opposed to blanket leniency--as was suggested by the other guy.
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« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2007, 03:25:57 PM »
Chairboy,

The site is something I have a hard time believing it's real. Given the lack of proof needed to make a site it's entirely possible it's the work of someone just trying to make a point and it's easier to do that making it up and have the posts look like they are real. There is a definite lack of professionalism in what little I saw posted there.
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« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2007, 03:33:42 PM »
Maverick,

You have the sense that I expect police officers to have.
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« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2007, 03:38:20 PM »
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Maverick,

I wasn't criticizing you. I was using your words as an example of a cop using discretion in doing his job, as opposed to blanket leniency--as was suggested by the other guy.


I didn't take it as criticism but I tend to look at something like that site with more than a grain of salt. I just threw it out there as a bit of humor on the subject, even if it is true.

Like I said I didn't write every one I stopped and I didn't let them all go either. Just because someone was a cop didn't make them infalible nor does it make them "on the take" like Curval quiped. I don't think he understands how insulting that kind of comment is either.
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« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2007, 03:48:42 PM »
out of state coppers tagging each other in radar traps is hardy far from reality.

as for local cops tagging each other gimme a break... membership has its privileges and it doesn't make for good chit-chat in the locker rooms.
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« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2007, 03:51:15 PM »
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out of state coppers tagging each other in radar traps is hardy far from reality.

as for local cops tagging each other gimme a break... membership has its privileges and it doesn't make for good chit-chat in the locker rooms.


While you might have extensive experiance in locker rooms, I'd say you lack relevent experiance other wise to make a sweeping statement.
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« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2007, 04:03:24 PM »
really mav... so just how many local coppers did you write up?
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« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2007, 04:06:10 PM »
More than you have. How long were you in Law Enforcement again?
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« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2007, 04:19:16 PM »
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Rich46yo,
I can see giving a cop, or anyone, a break when it’s just mild speeding with the traffic kind of a thing.  But do you always give a cop a break no matter what?  What if you pulled a guy over who was weaving all over the road, reeked of alcohol and who could hardly stand up – but was a cop?  Would you give that guy a break just because he was a cop?  Tell me that you see that there is a certain point where laws apply to cops as well as civilians?


                          Look I can only speak from my own experience. Ive been in this for almost 25 years, add 4 as an MP, and I probably went the first 15 years without ever writing a DUI. And thats working midnights. In the dreadful housing projects I ratted around in DUIs we rent a very high priority. It was a different time back then anyways and there wasnt much pressure to write them. The Bosses were thrilled if you just showed up to work.

                       Now I understand theres a lot of social pressure on driving drunk. And that's probably a good thing, having picked up enough pieces of bodies on roads. I quit years ago thank God.

                     The short answer to your question is no. I wouldnt write him. I'd take his keys away and would not let him back in the car. I might even talk with his Boss and try and get him help, "Ive done that a few times". I'd give him a ride home too. On the plus side unless you ran into someone ,or were just blind drunk, the odds of me writing you are about 0 too.

                  But I come from a different time with different codes. You should have seen these olds guys when I first came on.

                  The worse thing they can do to me is force me to retire, and then I'll just play AH all day long. I haven't worked Mids for awhiles thankfully. I did get tired of all the drunks.
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« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2007, 04:19:58 PM »
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We depend on each other for our lives and you think we'd write each other traffic tickets??:lol  Man, if you think so, then get a life. And I have news for you. If you were in uniform too 99% of you wouldnt either.
Only one way to deal with these scoff-laws:


Citizen Arrest! Citizen Arrest!


But seriously folks. Rick46's post is most telling. A law enforcement officer who has no sense of objective morality, thinks there's something wrong with anyone expecting it, and assumes everyone else to be just as immoral.

Thing is, this  type of "courtesy" (read criminal enablement) extends beyond traffic violations.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2007, 04:23:29 PM by KONG1 »
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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2007, 04:26:54 PM »
They got HO'd

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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2007, 04:31:01 PM »
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Look I can only speak from my own experience. Ive been in this for almost 25 years, add 4 as an MP, and I probably went the first 15 years without ever writing a DUI. And thats working midnights. In the dreadful housing projects I ratted around in DUIs we rent a very high priority. It was a different time back then anyways and there wasnt much pressure to write them. The Bosses were thrilled if you just showed up to work.

                       Now I understand theres a lot of social pressure on driving drunk. And that's probably a good thing, having picked up enough pieces of bodies on roads. I quit years ago thank God.

                     The short answer to your question is no. I wouldnt write him. I'd take his keys away and would not let him back in the car. I might even talk with his Boss and try and get him help, "Ive done that a few times". I'd give him a ride home too. On the plus side unless you ran into someone ,or were just blind drunk, the odds of me writing you are about 0 too.

                  But I come from a different time with different codes. You should have seen these olds guys when I first came on.

                  The worse thing they can do to me is force me to retire, and then I'll just play AH all day long. I haven't worked Mids for awhiles thankfully. I did get tired of all the drunks.


OK,
You don’t see DUI as a serious crime or threat; bad example on my part.
Let’s suppose that you pull a guy over and he has a pile of dead children in the back of his pick-up.  Do you do the cop courtesy thing and let him go?
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« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2007, 04:35:57 PM »
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More than you have. How long were you in Law Enforcement again?


why so defensive... it's a simple question?
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« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2007, 04:40:02 PM »
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Let’s suppose that you pull a guy over and he has a pile of dead children in the back of his pick-up.  Do you do the cop courtesy thing and let him go?
That's pretty extreme. Here's a question we already know the answer to:

What if your partner handcuffs a guy and beats him senseless for mouthing off?
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