Author Topic: Revolutions time? (Read 2275 times)

VonMessa · « **Reply #75 on:** October 02, 2007, 10:00:19 AM »

Thanks, gonna check it out now.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #76 on:** October 02, 2007, 11:48:40 AM »

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Jackal, without proper references, your "quoted facts" to me may as well have come from Barney the drunk on the Simpsons. In addition, typing them in all caps doesn't add anything to their validity. Cite sources please. . /B]

Hello! Anyone home. ---------> Waco: The Rules Of Engagement.

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Are we employing the tactics of Nazi Germany now?

Yathink.

VonMessa · « **Reply #77 on:** October 02, 2007, 01:59:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
Hello! Anyone home. ---------> Waco: The Rules Of Engagement.

Yathink.

Exactly my point. Anything made into a Hollywood movie must have the truth of its roots questioned. So please, in the future, quote me completey and not out of context.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #78 on:** October 03, 2007, 09:01:03 AM »

Stick a fork in him. He`s done.

wrag · « **Reply #79 on:** October 03, 2007, 05:41:00 PM »

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Exactly my point. Anything made into a Hollywood movie must have the truth of its roots questioned. So please, in the future, quote me completey and not out of context.

The film was NOT made by Hollywood IIRC??????????????

Plus several books have been written regarding the issues AND every fact reported is SOURCED if YOU care to check them.

AND NOWHERE is Wikipedia relied upon..............

VonMessa · « **Reply #80 on:** October 03, 2007, 11:18:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
Stick a fork in him. He`s done.

Thats your best rebuttal? I apologize. I usually try not to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person. Just doesn't seem fair.

VonMessa · « **Reply #81 on:** October 03, 2007, 11:34:06 PM »

I'm still trying to figure out where one can find info that says CS is lethal.

I've tried here , here , and here
just for starters.

Still looking........

Airscrew · « **Reply #82 on:** October 03, 2007, 11:44:03 PM »

http://stimson.org/cbw/?sn=CB2001121893

you probably should read this to understand the above

http://911emg.com/pages/library/USAMRICD%20CW%20Agent.PDF

VonMessa · « **Reply #83 on:** October 04, 2007, 07:02:05 AM »

I understand that I still see no claims to the lethality of CS gas. In fact, this data proves once again that it is on the bottom of the toxcicity chart. I have seen this chart (or one very similar) at basic NBC training. Thank you for the link.

I am certain that it could be lethal in in an enclosed space due to the lack of fresh oxygen, but being in an enclosed space with me after an Eagles game of cheesesteaks, baked beans, and beer could be lethal. Both due to asphyxiation, but not caused by the the chemical agent (CS for the former or methane for the latter) directly.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #84 on:** October 04, 2007, 09:15:07 AM »

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Thats your best rebuttal?

Rebuttal?

There is nothing to debate until you get your head out of your...........well until you will look at the sources that has been given you.

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I apologize.

Thanks. I feel better.

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I usually try not to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

I can help you with that problem also.
Don`t stand in front of the mirror and talk to yourself.

You have had a prime ribeye prepared, cooked to perfection and served on a platter, along with nice sides and a drink.
So far all you have done is stuck the fork in your eye.

VonMessa · « **Reply #85 on:** October 04, 2007, 09:47:49 AM »

Again, I am looking to find a source of information that unequivocally shows that CS, by itself, is lethal.

I will be patiently waiting.

*edit*

Unfortunately, Waco TROE, doesn't provide this information. So please take the rib-eye back to the kitchen, for it is not what I ordered. In the meantime, I'll keep the drink.