If we get to pick again.

[Hap]

Il-10

[Shiryu]

Originally posted by schlowy2
Rescue / Strategic planes
We should be able to land and pick up pilots who parachuted so that they don't get a 'captured' on their score points. We need planes which would be specifically dedicated to the task of getting downed pilots.

Actually this is a great idea, i wholeheartedly second it

[rogerdee]

id like to see a couple of bi planes
gloster galdiator used in norway north africa the lone defenders of malta,did the fins fly it too?

CR42 a italian fighter used in north africa the med and a couple of times the battle of britain.

I153 A Russian plane used from what i have read quite sucssesfuly.

How about some early japanese fighters

[Meatwad]

AWAX?

Sure, we need something to wax the planes with

[Tac]

Westland Whirlwind

1940-1943.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Whirlwind_%28fighter%29

General characteristics
Crew: One pilot
Length: 32 ft 3 in (9.83 m)
Wingspan: 45 ft 0 in (13.72 m)
Height: 11 ft 7 in (3.53 m)
Wing area: 250 ft² (23 m²)
Empty weight: 8,310 lb (3,770 kg)
Loaded weight: 10,356 lb (4,697 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 11,410 lb (5,175 kg)
Performance
Maximum speed: 360 mph (560 km/h)
Range: 808 miles (1,300 km)
Service ceiling: 30,315 ft (9,240 m)
Rate of climb: 1.550 ft/min (474 m/min)
Wing loading: 41 lb/ft² (204 kg/m²)
Armament
4x Hispano 20 mm cannon in nose (60 rounds per gun, 240 rounds total)
2x 250 lb (115 kg) or 500 lb (230 kg) bombs

[Fruda]

Originally posted by Tac
Westland Whirlwind

1940-1943.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Whirlwind_%28fighter%29

General characteristics
Crew: One pilot
Length: 32 ft 3 in (9.83 m)
Wingspan: 45 ft 0 in (13.72 m)
Height: 11 ft 7 in (3.53 m)
Wing area: 250 ft² (23 m²)
Empty weight: 8,310 lb (3,770 kg)
Loaded weight: 10,356 lb (4,697 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 11,410 lb (5,175 kg)
Performance
Maximum speed: 360 mph (560 km/h)
Range: 808 miles (1,300 km)
Service ceiling: 30,315 ft (9,240 m)
Rate of climb: 1.550 ft/min (474 m/min)
Wing loading: 41 lb/ft² (204 kg/m²)
Armament
4x Hispano 20 mm cannon in nose (60 rounds per gun, 240 rounds total)
2x 250 lb (115 kg) or 500 lb (230 kg) bombs

Looks like a pig/turkey/POS/whatever you want to call it, judging by the picture... Though pictures aren't everything.

[Koz]

I-16 would be kinda cool,and a KI-54 would be excelent:D

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Motherland
Theres also a plane of which over 35,000 were made, but only two latewar models are represented...

Represented being a key word. Step aside.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Fruda
Please tell me you're not trying to get just one more American-made aircraft in the game for your pleasure.

Filling holes, eh? Since we're talking about the game here, the plane would be defaulted to the American planeset, and any other country would have to be represented by additional skins, save for perhaps the P-39Q...



...Do you see where I'm going with this? I'm sure you do, but I'm guessing you'd rather complete the American planeset before anything else gets added.

Presumptive. I can see HT doing it in the livery it flew most in. What I don't see is a reason to be resentful because it was produced in the U.S.

The Russians certainly didn't seem to resent it.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Karnak
P-39 fills more holes, other aircraft fill bigger holes.

As it is, the P-39 doesn't really fill any empty hole that a new Russian fighter wouldn't fill.  All the non-Russian "holes" are already co-occupied by the P-40E.  The P-39 would just add depth to the P-40E's coverage.

And result in yet more of this:

B-25D
F4F-4
P-38G
P-39D
P-40B
P-40E
SBD-5
TBM-3

vs.

A6M2
B5N2
D3A1


Does the P-39 really fill a hole there?  No, it just adds depth to the US planeset.

I know I've been away awhile, K .... but did you intend to leave out some stuff? HTC still lists the Japanese planeset as:

A6M2
A6M5b
B5N2
D3A1
Ki-61-I-KAIc
Ki-67
Ki-84-la
N1K2-J

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Shiryu
An SM79 Sparviero bomber/torpedo bomber would be awesome, but any italian/japanese aircraft would be great as well.

Also, i'd love a couple different transport options than the usual C-47, given than the transport role isn't that unimportant in AH

Ayuh.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by schlowy2
Rescue / Strategic planes
We should be able to land and pick up pilots who parachuted so that they don't get a 'captured' on their score points. We need planes which would be specifically dedicated to the task of getting downed pilots.

Land rescue:
Fieseler Storch <--- it rescued Mussolini, so it can save us downed pilots also.

Sea rescue:
Arado 196 <----- seaplane
Gruman Duck <---- seaplane
PBY Catalina <---- rescue points perk plane.

PILOTS NEED A FLARE GUN PLEASE for this, it would be the 2ndary weapon.

Mine Layers:
These would be awesome for damaging those pesky carrier groups.
He115 <---- a mine laying seaplane.
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AWAX type planes?
I take off in an Fw200 Condor and there would be a 'radar' like the bases have around it wherever I would fly, such that same country planes would see dots, not just darbars.
Fw200

How about a ground radar plane? A radar like the bases have to show ground vehicles as dots to same country planes.
Fw189 uhu (owl) <----- best of its type.
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Early war era planes:
For those of us who would like to defend (or invade) France, Poland, and Russia.
Dewoitine 520
Polands open cockpit plane with the gull wings, I forget the name.
Polikarpov I-16
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I.A.R. 80 plane would be a novelty because its from an other country. It has a unique history: I heard that it first flew for Romania, then for Germany, then for Russia. Their pilots must have been confused lol. It would have the most possible countries paint jobs in the game.
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He111 is a must, just a question of when.
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Very High Perk Planes:
For those out there that have way too many points:

Horton 229, kinda like a 262 except that radar wouldn't detect them. Hmm, how about 2000 fighter points when perk bonus is 1.00?
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Everything you mentioned before early war is pure novelty. Novelty's nice but add function and filling more significant holes in historical scenarios and you have a winner. Early war only goes so far as their true place in filling the essential holes in early scenarios. If they also don't duplicate functionality too much and offer something to the main it's missing, as well, you (again) have a winner.

The Horton is just another variant of the ongoing "We *need* a B-29 with a nuke!" laugh.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by rogerdee
id like to see a couple of bi planes
gloster galdiator used in norway north africa the lone defenders of malta,did the fins fly it too?

CR42 a italian fighter used in north africa the med and a couple of times the battle of britain.

I153 A Russian plane used from what i have read quite sucssesfuly.

How about some early japanese fighters

SCW planeset and arena, baybee!

[Hien]

I'm real tempted to say the P-26 Pea Shooter.  But I tend to lean toward aircraft made for laughs in the Main Arena, and lord knows I could fall in love with a Peashooter.  Besides, I already fly the D3A1 constantly since I can't have it.  

But for a more realistic 'we need this' aircraft I'd have to go with...
I'd say something...  Something... IJN, not IJA though, we got a few Imperial Japanese Army fighters.  If I remember correctly the N1K1, Ki-61, and Ki-84 were all IJA, from land bases.  Probably another Zero model would be nice.  But the Raiden (J2M3?) would be nice to have too.

[schlowy2]

More stuff...
How about some limos or sports cars for transporting high command?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hitlerscarnew.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1930_Mercedes-Benz_SSK_34.jpg

How bout some V1's and V2's? Pound the enemy towns and maybe even vultch from the safety of our own base.

How bout trucks to tow guns which would require a min or so in order to pack/unpack?
Examples:
88mm puffy flak / anti tank guns.
Howitzer artillary guns for long range attacking.