Save the drama for your mama, please.

[toonces3]

You know, will some of you stop you're darn whining already?

Last night, my wingman and I are flying Spit 16's.  I know, training wheels and all, but I didn't feel like working so hard like in a jug.

Anyway, we get separated in a couple of engagements halfway between two bases, friendly and enemy.  As I finish with my guy, I ask where my wingman is and he's 3/4 towards the enemy field, huge dar bar growing, and engaged defensive with another Spit 16.  I tell him to try and drag the guy back towards our base while I head direct to him and pick him and the enemy up a minute later, still in the enemy radar area.  

This enemy spit sees me coming, and decides to stay with my wingman even though I'm about to engage him.  Short version, I roll in, we go a few turns, and I kill him.

As me and my wingie are heading  back home, I throw out a .s salute to him because he fought very well in a 2v1.  Nothing back, but that's ok.

Then Stoney comes on and we start chatting while we're RTB and it turns out the guy I shot down was talking a  bunch of smack on 200 which I had de-tuned.  So, I missed the pleasure of having a smack match on 200.

Bro, this is the MA.  YOU made the decision to stay engaged.  YOU made the decision to fly towards my base.  YOU could have turned away anytime, but decided to stay and you died.  Oh, and you fly with a well-known squad, so don't give me any grief about flying with a squad mate.

I saw a little of everything last night.  I saw a bomb and bail.  I saw this dude fly right in front of my Typhoon when I was over my base getting ready to land, in an F4U-4, with me in the typh, Stoney in an A-20, and some other guy in an unknown plane.  The F4U-4 ran straight home from me.  You know what?  I gave him a salute and wished him a safe flight with his wounded F4U-4 because I understood wanting to egress outnumbered (probably didn't realize I was bingo and winchester and Stoney was an A-20).

Ultimately we all make the decision about what field to up from, what fights to seek, and what planes to fly.  In a game with absolute freedom to choose your engagement, it never fails to amaze me how folks will somehow feel justified in whining just because THEY GOT THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION THAT GOT THEM SHOT DOWN!

Heck, 3 nights ago I stayed with a 3v1 when I could have egressed.  At the end, I threw they 3 a salute for a good fight, I didn't whine that I got ganged.  I chose to stay, and they fought well, no HO's and good teamwork.

If this thread applies to you, save the drama for your mama and stop being such a doggone sissy already.

[texasmom]

[toonces3]

"Don't mess with Texas"

[BiGBMAW]

sounds like you crying about crying in MA... = Double GHEY

[Chalenge]

And yet I dont care!

The last time I heard someone tooting his own horn on 200 it just so happened the same 'hero' volunteered to be lunch and repeated the same silly routine for hours. All the while claiming to possess more experience than Boelcke Richthofen Voss or Udet. Humor on 200 is pretty dull too.

[WaRLoCkL]

Originally posted by toonces3
You know, will some of you stop you're darn whining already?

Last night, my wingman and I are flying Spit 16's.  I know, training wheels and all, but I didn't feel like working so hard like in a jug.

Anyway, we get separated in a couple of engagements halfway between two bases, friendly and enemy.  As I finish with my guy, I ask where my wingman is and he's 3/4 towards the enemy field, huge dar bar growing, and engaged defensive with another Spit 16.  I tell him to try and drag the guy back towards our base while I head direct to him and pick him and the enemy up a minute later, still in the enemy radar area.  

This enemy spit sees me coming, and decides to stay with my wingman even though I'm about to engage him.  Short version, I roll in, we go a few turns, and I kill him.

As me and my wingie are heading  back home, I throw out a .s salute to him because he fought very well in a 2v1.  Nothing back, but that's ok.

Then Stoney comes on and we start chatting while we're RTB and it turns out the guy I shot down was talking a  bunch of smack on 200 which I had de-tuned.  So, I missed the pleasure of having a smack match on 200.

Bro, this is the MA.  YOU made the decision to stay engaged.  YOU made the decision to fly towards my base.  YOU could have turned away anytime, but decided to stay and you died.  Oh, and you fly with a well-known squad, so don't give me any grief about flying with a squad mate.

I saw a little of everything last night.  I saw a bomb and bail.  I saw this dude fly right in front of my Typhoon when I was over my base getting ready to land, in an F4U-4, with me in the typh, Stoney in an A-20, and some other guy in an unknown plane.  The F4U-4 ran straight home from me.  You know what?  I gave him a salute and wished him a safe flight with his wounded F4U-4 because I understood wanting to egress outnumbered (probably didn't realize I was bingo and winchester and Stoney was an A-20).

Ultimately we all make the decision about what field to up from, what fights to seek, and what planes to fly.  In a game with absolute freedom to choose your engagement, it never fails to amaze me how folks will somehow feel justified in whining just because THEY GOT THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION THAT GOT THEM SHOT DOWN!

Heck, 3 nights ago I stayed with a 3v1 when I could have egressed.  At the end, I threw they 3 a salute for a good fight, I didn't whine that I got ganged.  I chose to stay, and they fought well, no HO's and good teamwork.

If this thread applies to you, save the drama for your mama and stop being such a doggone sissy already.

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I think u just did more whining than the guy your complaining about did on 200.

Should have just left it at the and been done with it.

I do agree with u however, thing is anytime u shoot someone down, depending on who it is, u will never hear the end of it, so just lauph at the guy for being such a tool

[whiteman]

I didn't read that as whining, more like shut yo mouth ho.

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by toonces3
Ultimately we all make the decision about what field to up from, what fights to seek, and what planes to fly.  In a game with absolute freedom to choose your engagement, it never fails to amaze me how folks will somehow feel justified in whining just because THEY GOT THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION THAT GOT THEM SHOT DOWN!

I have to take exception to this comment.  While certainly all of these things are true to a degree they are not certanties.

For instance, last night I was in a mostly clear friendly sector climbing out toward the fight (1-2 sectors away) in a Spit VIII when I got jumped by a high Temp.  I selected what to fly, where to fly from and where to fly to but I didn't select that engagement.  Prior to this, the minimal enemy's in this particular sector had been all the way on the other side of it, near their own field and I was headed to yet another field to the north so seeing a red dar bar meant little given the "history".

Likewise, I (or anyone) can be in a good one on one or one on two when others, who may have been no where nearby when the fight started, join the fight.  I didn't choose to be ganged when I started the fight.

In yet another example, I shot someone down the other night.  A little while later I was back in the same area and saw the same plane (an F6F) along with a Pony flying my way co-alt.  I engaged but the Pony took a HO shot on the first and on every pass thereafter (3 times), while the F6F fought honorably.  On the 3rd attempt I had enough so I flew straight at the guy with the tigger down and rammed him.  I called him out on 200.  Really, 2 on 1 and all the guy had was the HO.  I was more than happy to go against these two but I wasn't expecting a HOtardling.

The point is, the MA's not the controlled environment you make it out to be.

[toonces3]

First, my post isn't a whine.  

Second, @ Baldeagle,
I didn't say the MA is a contolled environment.  In fact, I think it's a chaotic environment.  
I do think that we all have the exact same access to the same tools to do what we choose to do in the MA, with the exception of certain perk planes if you don't have the perks.

Nobody told you to take off from where you took off from, fly the route you took, or choose the altitude you were at.  We all have access to the same dar bar.  If you see red in your sector, you've  been warned.

Will you find yourself in engagements you don't want to be in?  Of course, I'm not saying that you can always pick and choose what happens to you.  But you made the choices you made.  Maybe you should've taken up a Tempest yourself.  Maybe you should have climbed to altitude before leaving the safety of your field.  Maybe you should have started from a sector even further back.

Speaking to the point of my post though, this dude was whining on 200 because he stayed with an engagement when the smart thing to do would've been to break off....if he wanted to live.  If he just wanted the fight, hey, he got it, and he lost.  If it was just him, I'd say so what, but whining about getting killed in the MA on 200 seems to be epidemic imo.



I'm not sure what part of my post consisted of chest thumping, but hey, I am awesome so I guess sometimes I come across that way without meaning it LOL.

Just thoughts fellas.

See ya in the cartoon skies,
Toonces

[toonces3]

I missed the memo that once someone is on your six, you're obligated to die.  If you don't want me to run, kill me quicker or fly a faster plane.  If you don't want me to get my friends to outnumber you, bring more of your own friends to the fight.

And if you don't want me to kill you, don't fly in front of my plane.

Pretty simple actually.

[hubsonfire]

Those of you who don't fight, or fight only from an advantage, have some of the least interesting stories I have ever read on these boards.

[Max]

Originally posted by toonces3
First, my post isn't a whine.  


See ya in the cartoon skies,
Toonces

Yeah, it is.

[toonces3]

edit.
I promised myself, no more posting after drinking.


Toonces

[Obie303]

Whats the differene?  Talking smack on 200 or doing it here on the BBS?

Obie

[DarkS1ar]

La lala lalalalaa hey!!